Chapter C: H. H

Westdean, Sussex.

_Tradescant Family_ (Vol. iii., p. 393.).--In further illustration of this subject, and for the information of your correspondents who have taken an interest in the restoration of the tomb in Lambeth churchyard, I beg through you to say that I have found the will of the grandsire, "John Tradescant, of South Lambeth, co. Surrey, Gardener:" it is dated January 8, 1637, and proved May 2, 1638, so that the period of his death may be fairly placed in that year, as suggested by MR. PINKERTON'S extracts from the churchwardens' accounts (Vol. iii., p. 394.); and the defect in the parish register for some months following July, 1637, will account for no entry being found of his actual burial. The younger Tradescant was his only child, and at the date of the will he had two grandchildren, John and Frances Tradescant. His son was the residuary legatee, with a proviso, that if he should desire to part with or sell his cabinet, he should first offer the same to _the Prince_. His brother-in-law, Alexander Norman, and Mr. William Ward, were the executors, and proved the will. As MR. PINKERTON stated that he was on the trace of new and curious matter respecting the Tradescants, he may find it useful to know that John Tradescant the elder held the lease of some property at Woodham Water in Essex, and two houses in Long Acre and Covent Garden.

G.

_Arms of Joan d'Arc_ (Vol. vii., p. 210.).--I believe I can answer the inquiry of BEND. The family of Joan d'Arc was ennobled by Charles VII. in December, 1429, with a grant of the following magnificent armorial coat, viz. Azure, between two fleurs-de-lys, or, a sword in pale, point upwards (the hilt or the blade argent), in chief, on the sword's point, an open crown, _fleur-de-lysé_, or.

In consequence of the proud distinction thus granted, of bearing for their arms the fleur-de-lys of France, the family assumed the name of _Du Lys_ d'Arc, which their descendants continued to bear, until (as was supposed) the line became extinct in the last century, in the person of Coulombe du Lys, Prior of Coutras, who died in 1760; but the fact is, that the family still exists in this country in the descendants of a Count Du Lys, who settled in Hampshire as a refugee at the revocation of the Edict of Nantes (he having embraced the Protestant religion). His eldest male descendant, and (as I believe) the representative of the ancient and noble family of Du Lys d'Arc, derived from a brother of the Maid of Orleans, is a most worthy friend and neighbour of mine, the Rev. J. T. Lys, Fellow of Exeter College, whose ancestors, since the period of their settlement in England, thought proper to drop the foreign title, and to curtail their name to its present form.

W. SNEYD.

Denton.

_Judæus Odor_ (Vol. vii., p. 207.).--The lines are to be found in the _London Magazine_, May, 1820, p. 504.:

"Even the notion, which is not yet entirely extinct among the vulgar
(though Sir T. Browne satisfactorily refuted it by abundant arguments
deduced from reason {296} and experience)--the notion that they have a
peculiar and disagreeable _smell_, is, perhaps, older than he imagined.
Venantius, a bishop of Poictiers, in the sixth century, who holds a
place in every _corpus poetarum_, says:

'Abluitur Judæus odor baptismate divo,
Et nova progenies reddita surgit aquis.
Vincens ambrosios suavi spiramine rores,
Vertice perfuso, chrismatis efflat odor.'
Venant. _Poemat._, lib. 4. xx.

"'Cosa maravigliosa,' says an Italian author, 'che ricevuto il santo
Battesimo, non puzzano più.'"

I believe the reference "lib. 4. xx." is inaccurate. At least I have not succeeded in finding the lines. That may be an excusable mistake: not so the citing "an Italian author," instead of giving his name, or saying that the writer had forgotten it.

The power of baptism over the _Judæus odor_ is spoken of familiarly in the _Epistolæ Obscurorum Virorum_:

"Nuper quando unus dixit mihi quod non credit, quod Pfefferkorn adhuc
est bonus Christianus: quia dixit quod vidit eum ante unum annum, et
adhuc foetebat sicut alius Judæus, et tamen dicunt communiter, quod
quando Judæi baptizantur, non amplius foetent; ergo credit quod
Pfefferkorn habet adhuc nequam post aures. Et quando Theologi credunt
quod est optimus Christianus, tunc erit iterum Judæus, et fides non est
ei danda, quia omnes homines habent malam suspicionem de Judæis
baptizatis. . . . Sed respondeo vobis ad illam objectum: Vos dicitis
quod Pfefferkorn foetet. Posito casu, quod est verum, sicut non credo,
neque unquam intellexi, dico quod est alia causa hujus foetoris. Quia
Johannes Pfefferkorn, quando fuit Judæus, fuit macellarius, et
macellarii communiter etiam foetent: tunc omnes qui audierunt, dixerunt
quod est bona ratio."--Ed. Münch: Leipzig, 1827, p. 209.

A modern instance of belief in the "odor" is in, but cannot decently be quoted from, _The Stage, a Poem_, by John Brown, p 22.: London, 1819.

H. B. C.

U. U. Club.

_Philip d'Auvergne_ (Vol. vii., p. 236.).--This cadet of a Jersey family, whose capture, when a lieutenant in our royal navy, led to his being in Paris as a prisoner on parole, and thereby eventually to his adoption by the last Prince of Bouillon, was a person of too much notoriety to make it necessary to tell the tale of his various fortunes in your columns; of his imprisonment in the Bastile, and subsequently for a short period in the Temple; his residence at Mont Orgueil Castle in Jersey, for the purpose of managing communications with royalists or other agents, on the opposite French coast; or the dates of his successive commissions in the navy, in which he got upon the list of rear-admirals in 1805, and was a vice-admiral of the blue in 1810.

I have not access at present to any list of the _Lives of Public Characters_, but think I can recollect that there was an account given of him in that publication; and there can be no doubt but that any necrology, of the date of his death, would contain details at some length.

I suspect there is mistake in Brooke's _Gazetteer_, as quoted by E. H. A., for I feel rather confident that the reigning duke had no son living when he made over the succession to one whom he did not know to be a relation, though bearing the family name.

As, however, this adopted representative of the Dukes De Bouillon has been mentioned, it may be a fit occasion to ask if any of your Jersey readers can tell what became, at his death, of a beautifully preserved and illuminated French translation of the Scriptures, which he showed to your correspondent in 1814, as having been the gift of the Black Prince's captive, King John of France, to the Duc De Berri, his son, from whom it had passed into the possession of the Ducs De Bouillon. His highness (for the concession of this style was still a result of his dukedom) said, that he had lent this Bible for a while to the British Antiquarian Society, which had engraved some costumes and figures from the vignettes which adorned the initials of chapters.

H. W.

_Dr. Parr's A. E. A. O._ (Vol. vii., p. 156.).--The learned doctor indulged in boundless exultation at the unavailing efforts of mankind to give significancy to the above cabalistical combination of vowels. The combination was formed in the following, manner:--S[A]MUEL P[A]RR engaged his friend H[E]NRY H[O]MER to assist him in correcting the press; and so he took the "A. E." of their Christian names, and the "A. O." of their surnames, to form a puzzle which, like many other puzzles, is scarcely worth solution.

OEDIPUS.

_Jewish Lineaments_ (Vol. vi., p. 362.).--Is this Query put in reference to the individual or the race? In either case the lineaments would wear out. In the first, intermarriage would soon destroy them, as I have an instance in my own family, wherein the person, though only three removes from true Jewish blood, retains only the faintest trace of Jewish ancestry. In the second instance, the cause of the change is more subtle. The Jew, as long as he adheres to Judaism, mingles with Hebrew people, adopts their manners, shares their pursuits, and imbibes their tone of thought. Just as the character is reflected in the countenance, so will he maintain his Jewish looks; but as soon as he adopts Christian views, and mingles with Christian people, he will lose those peculiarities of countenance, the preservation of which depended on his former career. We see examples of this in those Franks who have resided {297} for a long time in the East, adopting the dress and customs of the people they have mingled with. Such persons acquire an Eastern tone of countenance, and many have been mistaken by their friends for veritable Turks or Arabs, the countenance having acquired the expression of the people with whom they have mingled most freely. The same fact is illustrated in the countenances of aged couples, especially in country places. Frequently these, though widely distinct in appearance when first married, grow at last exactly like each other, and in old age are sometimes scarcely to be distinguished by the features.

If not quite to the purpose, these instances illustrate the correspondence of the life and the looks, which is the philosophy of the Query on Jewish lineaments.

SHIRLEY HIBBERD.

_Sotadic Verses_ (Vol. vi., pp. 209. 352. 445.).--There is an English example of this kind of line, attributed, I think, to Taylor the Water Poet:

"Lewd did I live & evil I did dwel."

To make this perfect, however, "and" must not be written at full length, and "dwell" must be content with half its usual amount of liquid.

It is difficult to make _sense_ of any of the Latin Sotadics quoted in "N. & Q.," except that beginning "Signa te," &c. Even the clue given by the mention of the legend in p. 209. does not enable one to find a meaning in "Roma tibi," &c.

Can any of your readers tell me whence comes the following Sotadic Elegiac poem, and construe it for me?

"Salta, tu levis es; summus se si velut Atlas,
(Omina ne sinimus,) suminis es animo.
Sin, oro, caret arcanâ cratera coronis
Unam arcas, animes semina sacra manu.
Angere regnato, mutatum, o tangere regna,
Sana tero, tauris si ruat oret anas:
Milo subi rivis, summus si viribus olim,
Muta sedes; animal lamina sede satum.
Tangeret, i videas, illisae divite regnat;
Aut atros ubinam manibus orta tua!
O tu casurus, rem non mersurus acuto
Telo, sis-ne, tenet? non tenet ensis, olet."

HARRY LEROY TEMPLE.

_Bells at Funerals_ (Vol. ii., p. 478.).--The following extract will doubtless be interesting to MR. GATTY, if it has hitherto escaped his notice:

"June 27 (1648).--The visitors ordered that the bellman of the
university should not go about in such manner as was heretofore used at
the funeral of any member of the university. This was purposely to
prevent the solemnity that was to be performed at the funeral of Dr.
Radcliffe, Principal of B. N. C., lately dead. For it must be known
that it hath been the custom, time out of mind, that when head of
house, doctor, or master of considerable degree was to be buried, the
university bellman was to put on the gown and the formalities of the
person defunct, and with his bell go into every college and hall, and
there make open proclamation, after two rings with his bell, that
forasmuch as God had been pleased to take out of the world such a
person, he was to give notice to all persons of the university, that on
such a day, and at such an hour, he was solemnly to be buried, &c. But
the visitors did not only forbid this, but _the bellman's going before
the corpse, from the house or college, to the church or chapel_."--A.
Wood, quoted in _Oxoniana_, vol. iv. p. 206.

E. H. A.

_Collar of SS._ (Vol. vi., pp. 182. 352.).--There is, in the church of Fanfield, Yorkshire, among other tombs and effigies of the Marmions, the original lords of the place, a magnificent tomb of alabaster, on which are the recumbent figures of a knight and his lady, in excellent preservation. These are probably effigies of Robert Marmion and his wife Lota, second daughter of Herbert de St. Quintin, who died in the latter part of the fourteenth, or early in the fifteenth century. The armour of the knight is of this period, and he is furnished with the SS. collar of Lancaster, which is developed in a remarkably fine manner. His juppon is furnished with the vaire, the bearing of the Marmion, whilst the chevronels of St. Quintin are evident on the mantle of the lady. Over the tomb is placed a herse of iron, furnished with stands for holding lighted candles or torches.

WM. PROCTER.

York.

_Dr. Marshall_ (Vol. vii., p. 83.).--I beg to inform U. I. S. that the King's chaplain and Dean of Gloucester in 1682 was not _Anthony_, but _Thomas_ Marshall, D.D., Rector of Lincoln College, Oxford, a great benefactor to his college and the university, and highly distinguished for his knowledge of the Oriental and Teutonic languages.

E. H. A.

_Shelton Oak_ (Vol. vii., p. 193.).--Shelton Oak is a remarkable fine tree, and is still standing. It is apparently in a healthy state. The grounds and mansion (I believe) are in the possession of two maiden ladies, who allow visitors free access to this interesting object. In summer time its owners and their friends frequently tea within its venerable trunk.

The acorns are dealt out to those who may wish them at a trifling sum, and the money devoted towards the building of a church in the neighbouring locality. It is to be hoped that no innovation or local improvement will ever necessitate its removal.

H. M. BEALBY.

North Brixton.

"_God and the world_" (Vol. vii., p. 134.).--Fulke Greville, Lord Brooke, was the author of the lines quoted by W. H., but he has not given them correctly. They may be found in the LXVI. {298} and LXVII. stanzas of his _Treatie of Warres_, and are as follows:

LXVI.

"God and the world they worship still together,
Draw not their lawes to him, but his to theirs,
Untrue to both, so prosperous in neither,
Amid their own desires still raising fears:
Unwise, as all distracted powers be,
Strangers to God, fooles in humanitie.

LXVII.

"Too good for great things, and too great for good,
Their princes serve their priest, yet that priest is
Growne king, even by the arts of flesh and blood," &c.
_Workes_, p. 82.: London, 1633, 8vo.

As for the last line of the quotation:

"While still 'I dare not' waits upon 'I would,'"

it smacks very strongly of _Macbeth_ (Act I. Sc. 7.), and "the poor cat i'th adage:"

"Catus amat pisces, sed non vult tingere plantas."

RT.

Warmington.

_Dreng_ (Vol. vii., p. 39.).--_Dreng_ is still the Danish term for a servant or a boy: their present station in society could perhaps be only found by a correspondence with Copenhagen; and would then possibly give as little elucidation of their former social position as an explanation of our modern villain would throw any light upon the villani of _Domesday Book_.

WILLIAM BELL.

17. Gower Place.

_Meals_ (Vol. vii., p. 208.).--In Celtic, the word _Meall_ means any rising ground of a round form, such as a low hillock; and the name of _Mealls_ may have been given to sand-banks from having a resemblance to small hills at low water.

FRAS. CROSSLEY.

Along the sea-margin of the tongue of land between the rivers Mersey and Dee, the sand has been thrown up in domes. Two little hamlets built among those sand-hills are called North and South Meols.

J. M. N.

Liverpool.

_Richardson or Murphy_ (Vol. vii., p. 107.).--I possess a copy of _Literary Relics of the late Joseph Richardson, Esq., formerly of St. John's College, Cambridge, &c._, 4to.: London, 1807. Prefixed, is a line engraving by W. J. Newton, from a painting by M. A. Shee, Esq., R.A. This is a subscriber's copy, and belonged as such to one of my nearest relatives. The inscription at the bottom of the plate is the same as that mentioned by your correspondent; and I cannot but think the portrait is really that of J. Richardson. The book was published by Ridgway, No. 170. Piccadilly.