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New Brunswick, New Jersey.

[Footnote 1:

"Now, do thy speedy utmost, Meg,
And win the key-stane of the brig:
There at them thou thy tail may toss,
A running stream they dare na crass."--_Tam O'Shanter._

]

_North Lincolnshire Folk Lore._--Here follow some shreds of folk lore which I have not seen as yet in "N. & Q." They all belong to North Lincolnshire.

1. Death sign. If a swarm of bees alight on a dead tree, or on the dead bough of a living tree, there will be a death in the family of the owner during the year.

2. If you do not throw salt into the fire before you begin to churn, the butter will not come.

3. If eggs are brought over running water they will have no chicks in them.

4. It is unlucky to bring eggs into the house after sunset.

5. If you wear a snake's skin round your head you will never have the headache.

6. Persons called Agnes always go mad.

7. A person who is born on Christmas Day will be able to see spirits.

8. Never burn egg-shells; if you do, the hens cease to lay.

9. If a pigeon is seen sitting in a tree, or comes into the house, or from being wild suddenly becomes tame, it is a sign of death.

10. When you see a magpie you should cross yourself; if you do not you will be unlucky.

EDWARD PEACOCK.

Bottesford Moors.

_Portuguese Folk Lore._--

"The borderer whispered in my ear that he was one of the dreadful
Lobishomens, a devoted race, held in mingled horror and commiseration,
and never mentioned {383} without by the Portuguese peasantry. They
believe that if a woman be delivered of seven male infants
successively, the seventh, by an inexplicable fatality, becomes subject
to the powers of darkness; and is compelled, on every Saturday evening,
to assume the likeness of an ass. So changed, and followed by a horrid
train of dogs, he is forced to run an impious race over the moors and
through the villages; nor is allowed an interval of rest until the
dawning Sabbath terminates his sufferings, and restores him to his
human shape."--From Lord Carnarvon's _Portugal and Gallicia_, vol. ii.
p. 268.

E. H. A.

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POPE AND COWPER.

In Cowper's letter to Lady Hesketh, dated January 18, 1787, occurs a notice for the first time of Mr. Samuel Rose, with whom Cowper subsequently corresponded. He informs Lady Hesketh that--

"A young gentleman called here yesterday, who came six miles out of his
way to see me. He was on a journey to London from Glasgow, having just
left the University there. He came, I suppose, partly to satisfy his
own curiosity, but chiefly, as it seemed, to bring me the thanks of
some of the Scotch professors for my two volumes. His name is Rose, an
Englishman."

Prefixed to a copy of Hayley's _Life and Letters of William Cowper, Esq._, in the British Museum, is an extract in MS. of a letter from the late Samuel Rose, Esq., to his favourite sister, Miss Harriet Rose, written in the year before his marriage, at the age of twenty-two, and which, I believe, has never been printed. It may, perhaps, merit a corner of "N. & Q."

"Weston Lodge, Sept. 9, 1789.

"Last week Mr. Cowper finished the _Odyssey_, and we drank an
unreluctant bumper to its success. The labour of translation is now at
an end, and the less arduous work of revision remains to be done, and
then we shall see it published. I promise both you and myself much
pleasure from its perusal. You will most probably find it at first less
pleasing than Pope's versification, owing to the difference subsisting
between blank verse and rhyme--a difference which is not sufficiently
attended to, and whereby people are led into injudicious comparisons.
You will find Mr. Pope more refined: Mr. Cowper more simple, grand, and
majestic; and, indeed, insomuch as Mr. Pope is more refined than Mr.
Cowper, he is more refined than his original, and in the same
proportion departs from Homer himself. Pope's must universally be
allowed to be a beautiful poem: Mr. Cowper's will be found a striking
and a faithful portrait, and a pleasing picture to those who enjoy his
style of colouring, which I am apprehensive is not so generally
acceptable as the other master's. Pope possesses the gentle and amiable
graces of a Guido: Cowper is endowed with the bold sublime genius of a
Raphael. After having said so much upon their comparative merits,
enough, I hope, to refute your second assertion which was, that women,
in the opinion of men, have little to do with literature. I may inform
you, that the _Iliad_ is to be dedicated to Earl Cowper, and the
_Odyssey_ to the Dowager Lady Spencer but this information need not be
extensively circulated."

J. YEOWELL.

50. Burton Street.

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SHAKSPEARE CORRESPONDENCE.

_"As You Like It."_--Believing that whatever illustrates, even to a trifling extent, the great dramatic poet of England will interest the readers of "N. & Q.," I solicit their attention to the resemblance between the two following passages:

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players."

"Si rectè aspicias, _vita hæc est fabula quædam_.
_Scena autem, mundus versatilis_: _histrio et actor_
_Quilibet est hominum--mortales nam propriè cuncti_
_Sunt personati_, et falsâ sub imagine, vulgi
Præstringunt oculos: _ita Diis, risumque jocumque_,
_Stultitiis, nugisque suis per sæcula præbent_.
. . . . . . . .
"Jam mala quæ humanum patitur genus, adnumerabo.
_Principiò_ postquam è latebris malè olentibus alvi
Eductus tandem est, materno sanguine foedus,
_Vagit, et auspicio lacrymarum nascitur infans_.
. . . . . . . .
"Vix natus jam vincla subit, tenerosque coërcet
Fascia longa artus: præsagia dire futuri
Servitii.
. . . . . . . .
"Post ubi jam valido se poplite sustinet, et jam
Ritè loqui didicit, tunc servire incipit, atque
Jussa pati, _sentitque minas ictusque magistri_,
Sæpe patris matrisque manu fratrisque frequenter
Pulsatur: facient quid vitricus atque noverca?
_Fit juvenis, crescunt vires_: jam spernit habenas,
Occluditque aures monitis, furere incipit, ardens
Luxuriâ atque irâ: et temerarius omnia nullo
Consilio aggreditur, dictis melioribus obstat,
Deteriora fovens: _non ulla pericula curat_,
Dummodo id efficiat, suadet quod coeca libido.
. . . . . . . .
"_Succedit gravior, melior, prudentior ætas_,
Cumque ipsâ curæ adveniunt, durique labores;
Tune homo mille modis, studioque enititur omni
Rem facere, et nunquam sibi multa negotia desunt.
Nunc peregrè it, nunc ille domi, nunc rure laborat,
Ut sese, uxorem, natos, famulosque gubernet,
Ac servet, solus pro cunctis sollicitus, nec
Jucundis fruitur dapibus, nec nocte quietâ.
Ambitio hunc etiam impellens, _ad publica mittit_
_Munia_: dumque inhiat vano malè sanus honori,
Invidiæ atque odii patitur mala plurima: deinceps
_Obrepit canis rugosa senecta capillis_,
Secum multa trahens incommoda corporis atque
Mentis: nam _vires abeunt, speciesque colorque_,
Nec non _deficiunt sensus_: _audire, videre_
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_Languescunt, gustusque minor fit_: denique semper
Aut hoc, aut illo morbo vexantur--_inermi_
_Manduntur vix ore cibi_, _vix crura bacillo_
_Sustentata meant_: animus quoque vulnera sentit.
_Desipit, et longo torpet confectus ab ævo_."

It would have only occupied your space needlessly, to have transcribed at length the celebrated description of the seven ages of human life from Shakspeare's _As You Like It_; but I would solicit the attention of your readers to the Latin verses, and then to the question, Whether either poet has borrowed from the other? and, should this be decided affirmatively, the farther question would arise, Which is the original?

ARTERUS.

Dublin.

[These lines look like a modern paraphrase of Shakspeare; and our
Correspondent has not informed us from what book he has _transcribed_
them.--Ed.]

_Passage in "King John" and "Romeo and Juliet."_--I am neither a commentator nor a reader of commentators on Shakspeare. When I meet with a difficulty, I get over it as well as I can, and think no more of the matter. Having, however, accidentally seen two passages of Shakspeare much ventilated in "N. & Q.," I venture to give my poor conjectures respecting them.

1. _King John._--

"It lies as sightly on the back of him,
As great Alcides' _shows_ upon an ass."

I consider _shows_ to be the true reading; the reference being to the ancient _mysteries_, called also _shows_. The machinery required for the celebration of the mysteries was carried by _asses_. Hence the proverb: "Asinus portat mysteriæ." The connexion of Hercules--"great Alcides"--with the mysteries, may be learned from Aristophanes and many other ancient writers. And thus the meaning of the passage seems to be: The lion's skin, which once belonged to Richard of the Lion Heart, is as sightly on the back of _Austria_, as were the mysteries of Hercules upon an ass.

2. _Romeo and Juliet._--

"That runaways eyes may wink."

Here I would retain the reading, and interpret _runaways_ as signifying "persons going about on the watch." Perhaps _runagates_, according to modern usage, would come nearer to the proposed signification, but not to be quite up with it. Many words in Shakspeare have significations very remote from those which they now bear.

PATRICK MUIRSON.

_Shakspeare and the Bible._--Has it ever been noticed that the following passage from the Second Part of _Henry IV._, Act I. Sc. 3., is taken from the fourteenth chapter of St. Luke's Gospel?

"What do we then, but draw anew the model
In fewer offices; or, at least, desist
To build at all? Much more, in this great work,
(Which is almost to pluck a kingdom down,
And set another up) should we survey
The plot, the situation, and the model;
Consult upon a sure foundation,
Question surveyors, know our own estate,
How able such a work to undergo.
A careful leader sums what force he brings
To weigh against his opposite; or else
We fortify on paper, and in figures,
Using the names of men, instead of men:
Like one that draws the model of a house
Beyond his power to build it."

The passage in St. Luke is as follows (xiv. 28-31.):

"For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first,
and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

"Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to
finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,

"Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.

"Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down
first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him
that cometh against him with twenty thousand?"

I give the passage as altered by Mr. Collier's Emendator, because I think the line added by him,

"A careful leader sums what force he brings,"

is strongly corroborated by the Scripture text.

Q. D.

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Minor Notes.

_Judicial Families._--In vol. v. p. 206. (new edition) of Lord Mahon's _History of England_, we find the following passage:

"Lord Chancellor Camden was the younger son of Chief Justice Pratt,--a
case of rare succession in the annals of the law, and not easily
matched, unless by their own cotemporaries, Lord Hardwicke and Charles
Yorke."

The following case, I think, is equally, if not more, remarkable:--

The Right Hon. Thomas Berry Cusack-Smith, brother of the present Sir Michael Cusack-Smith, Bart., is Master of the Rolls in Ireland, having been appointed to that high office in January, 1846. His father, Sir William Cusack-Smith, second baronet, was for many years Baron of the Court of Exchequer in Ireland. And his grandfather, the Right Hon. Sir Michael Smith, first baronet, was, like his grandson at the present day, Master of the Rolls in Ireland.

Is not this "a case of rare succession in the annals of the law, and not easily matched?"

ABHBA.

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_Derivation of "Topsy Turvy."_--When things are in confusion they are generally said to be turned "topsy turvy." The expression is derived from a way in which turf for fuel is placed to dry on its being cut. The surface of the ground is pared off with the heath growing on it, and the heath is turned downward, and left some days in that state that the earth may get dry before it is carried away. It means then top-side-turf-way.

CLERICUS RUSTICUS.

_Dictionaries and Encyclopædias._--Allow me to offer a suggestion to the publishers and compilers of dictionaries; first as to dictionaries of the language. A large class refer to these only to learn the meaning of words not familiar to them, but which may occur in reading. If the dictionaries are framed on the principle of displaying only the classical language of England, it is ten to one they will not supply the desired information. Let there be, besides classical dictionaries, glossaries which will exclude no word whatever on account of rarity, vulgarity, or technicality, but which may very well exclude those which are most familiar. As to encyclopædias, their value is chiefly as supplements to the library; but surely no one studies anatomy, or the differential calculus, or architecture, in them, however good the treatises may be. I want a dictionary of miscellaneous subjects, such as find place more easily in an encyclopædia than anywhere else; but why must I also purchase treatises on the higher mathematics, on navigation, on practical engineering, and the like, some of which I already may possess, others not want, and none of which are a bit the more convenient because arranged in alphabetical order in great volumes. Besides, they cannot be conveniently replaced by improved editions.

ENCYCLOPÆDICUS.

_"Mary, weep no more for me."_--There is a well-known ballad of this name, said to have been written by a Scotchman named "Low." The first verse runs thus:

"The moon had climbed the highest hill,
Which rises o'er the source of Dee,
And from the eastern summit sped
Its silver light on tower and tree."

I find, however, amongst my papers, a fragment of a version of this same ballad, of, I assume, earlier antiquity, which so surpasses Low's ballad that the author has little to thank him for his interference. The first verse of what I take to be the original poem stands thus:

"The moon had climbed the highest hill,
Where eagles big[2] aboon the Dee,
And like the looks of a lovely dame,
Brought joy to every body's ee."

No poetical reader will require his attention to be directed to the immeasurable superiority of this glorious verse: the high poetic animation, the eagles' visits, the lovely looks of female beauty, the exhilarating gladness and joy affecting the beholder, all manifest the genius of the master bard. I shall receive it as a favour if any of your correspondents will furnish a complete copy of the original poem, and contrast it with what "Low" fancied his "improvements."

JAMES CORNISH.

[Footnote 2: Build.]

_Epitaph at Wood Ditton._--You have recently appropriated a small space in your "medium of intercommunication" to the subject of epitaphs. I can furnish you with one which I have been accustomed to regard as a "grand climacterical absurdity." About thirty years ago, when making a short summer ramble, I entered the churchyard of Wood Ditton, near Newmarket, and my attention was attracted by a headstone, having inlaid into its upper part a piece of iron, measuring about ten inches by six, and hollowed out into the shape of a _dish_. I inquired of a cottager residing on the spot what the thing meant? I was informed that the party whose ashes the grave covered was a man who, during a long life, had a strange taste for sopping a slice of bread in a dripping-pan (a pan over which meat has been roasted), and would relinquish for this all kinds of dishes, sweet or savoury; that in his will he left a request that a dripping-pan should be fixed in his gravestone; that he wrote his own epitaph, an exact copy of which I herewith give you, and which he requested to be engraved on the stone:

"Here lies my corpse, who was the man
That loved a sop in the dripping-pan;
But now believe me I am dead,--
See here the pan stands at my head.
Still for sops till the last I cried,
But could not eat, and so I died.
My neighbours they perhaps will laugh,
When they read my epitaph."

J. H.

Cambridge.

_Pictorial Pun._--In the village of Warbleton, in Sussex, there is an old public-house, which has for its sign a War Bill in a tun of beer, in reference of course to the name of the place. It has, however, the double meaning, of "Axe for Beer."

R. W. B.

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Queries.

SIR THOMAS BUTTON'S VOYAGE, 1612.

I am about to print some information, hitherto I believe totally unknown, relative to the voyage of Sir Thomas Button in 1612, for the discovery of the north-west passage.

Of this voyage a journal was kept, which was in existence many years afterwards, being offered by {386} its author to Secretary Dorchester in 1629, then engaged in forwarding the projected voyage of "North-West" Foxe; it is remarkable, however, that no extended account of this voyage, so important in its objects, has ever been published. I am desirous of knowing if this journal is in existence, and where? Also, Lord Dorchester's letter to Button in February, 1629; of any farther information on the subject of the voyage, or of Sir Thomas Button.

What I possess already are, 1. "Motiues inducing a Proiect for the Discouerie of the North Pole terrestriall; the streights of Anian, into the South Sea, and Coasts thereof," anno 1610. 2. Prince Henry's Instructions for the Voyage, together with King James's Letters of Credence, 1612. 3. A Letter from Sir Thomas Button to Secretary Dorchester, dated Cardiff, 16th Feb., 1629 (from the State Paper Office). 4. Sir Dudley Digges' little tract on the N.-W. Passage, written to promote the voyage, and of which there were two distinct impressions in 1611 and 1612. 5. Extracts from the Carleton Correspondence, and from the Hakluyt Society's volume on Voyages to the North-West.

I shall be glad also to learn the date, and any other facts connected with the death of John Davis, the discoverer of the Straits bearing his name.

JOHN PETHERAM.

94. High Holborn.

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Minor Queries.

_The Words "Cash" and "Mob."_--In Moore's _Diary_ I find the following remark. Can any of your numerous readers throw any light on the subject?

"Lord Holland doubted whether the word 'Cash' was a legitimate English
word, though, as Irving remarked, it is as old as Ben Jonson, there
being a character called Cash in one of his comedies. Lord Holland said
Mr. Fox was of opinion that the word 'Mob' was not genuine
English."--Moore's _Diary_, vol. iii. p. 247.

CLERICUS RUSTICUS.

_"History of Jesus Christ."_--G. L. S. will feel obliged by any correspondent of "N. & Q." stating who is the author of the following work?--

"The History of the Incarnation, Life, Doctrine and Miracles, the
Death, Resurrection, and Ascension of Our Blessed Lord and Saviour,
Jesus Christ. In Seven Books; illustrated with Notes, and interspersed
with Dissertations, theological, historical, geographical and critical.

"To which are added the Lives, Actions, and Sufferings of the Twelve
Apostles; also of Saint Paul, Saint Mark, Saint Luke, and Saint
Barnabas. Together with a Chronological Table from the beginning of the
reign of Herod the Great to the end of the Apostolic Age. By a Divine
of the Church of England.

"London: printed for T. Cooper, at the Globe, in Paternoster Row,
1737."

This work is in one folio volume, and all I can ascertain of its authorship is that it was _not_ written by Bishop Gibson, of "Preservative" fame.

_Quantity of the Latin Termination -anus._--Proper names having the termination _-anus_ are always long in Latin and short in Greek; thus, the Claudi[=a]nus, Luci[=a]nus, &c. of the Latins are [Greek: Klaudianos] and [Greek: Loukianos] in Greek. What is to be said of the word [Greek: Christianos]? Is it long or short, admitting it to be long in the Latin tongue?

While on the subject of quantities, let me ask, where is the authority for that of the name of the queen of the Ethiopians, Candace, to be found? We always pronounce it long, but all books of authority mark it as short.

ANTI-BARBARUS.

_Webb and Walker Families._--Perhaps you or some of your numerous readers could inform me if the Christian names of Daniel and Roger were used 160 or 180 years ago by any of the numerous families of _Webb_ or _Webbe_, resident in Wilts or elsewhere; and if so, in what family of that name? And is there any pedigree of them extant? and where is it to be found?

Was the Rev. Geo. Walker, the defender of Derry, connected with the Webbs? and if so, how, and with what family?

Is there any Webb mentioned in history at the siege of Derry? and if so, to what family of that name did he belong?

GULIELMUS.

_Cawdrey's "Treasure of Similes."_--I stumbled lately at a book-stall on a very curious old book entitled _A Treasurie or Store-house of Similes both pleasant, delightfull, and profitable_. The title-page is gone; but in an old hand on the cover it is stated to have been written by a certain "Cawdrey," and to have been printed in 1609, where I cannot discover. Can any of your correspondents oblige me with some information concerning him? The book is marked "scarce."

J. H. S.

_Point of Etiquette._--Will some of your numerous correspondents kindly inform me as to the rule in such a case as the following: when an elder brother has lost both his daughters in his old age, does the eldest daughter of the younger brother take the style of _Miss_ Smith, Jones, Brown, or Robinson, as the case may be?

F. D., M.R.C.S.

_Napoleon's Spelling._--Macaulay, in his _History of England_, chap. vii., quotes, in a foot-note, a passage from a letter of William III., written in French to his ambassador at Paris, and then makes this remark, "The spelling is bad, but not worse than Napoleon's." {387}

Can you refer me to some authentic proof of the fact that Napoleon was unable to spell correctly? It is well known that he affected to put his thoughts upon paper with great rapidity; and the consequence of this practice was, that in almost every word some letters were dropped, or their places indicated by dashes. But this was only one of those numerous contrivances, to which he was in the habit of resorting, in order to impress those around him with an idea of his greatness.

HENRY H. BREEN.

St. Lucia.

_Trench on Proverbs._--Mr. Trench, in this excellent little work, states that the usual translation of Psalm cxxvii. 2. is incorrect:

"Let me remind you of such [proverbs] also as the following, often
quoted or alluded to by Greek and Latin authors: _The net of the
sleeping (fisherman) takes_[3]; a proverb the more interesting, that we
have in the words of the Psalmist (Ps. cxxvii. 2.), were they
accurately translated, a beautiful and perfect parallel; 'He giveth his
beloved' (not 'sleep,' but) 'in their sleep;' his gifts gliding into
their bosoms, they knowing not how, and as little expecting as leaving
laboured for them."

The Hebrew is [Hebrew: YTN LYDYDW SHN'], the literal translation of which, "He giveth (or, He will give) to his beloved sleep," seems to me to be correct.

As Mr. Trench is a reader of "N. & Q.," perhaps he would have the kindness to mention in its pages the ground he has for his proposed translation.

E. M. B.

[Footnote 3: "[Greek: Heudonti kurtos hairei]. Dormienti rete trahit."]

_Rings formerly worn by Ecclesiastics._--In describing the finger-ring found in the grave of the Venerable Bede, the writer of _A brief Account of Durham Cathedral_ adds,--

"No priest, during the reign of Catholicity, was buried or enshrined
without his ring."--P. 81.

I have seen a similar statement elsewhere, and wish to ask, 1st, Were priests formerly buried with the ring? 2ndly, If so, was it a mere custom, or was it ordered or authorised by any rubric or canon of our old English Church?

I am very strongly of opinion that such never was the custom, and that the statement above quoted has its origin in the confounding priests with bishops. Martene says, when speaking of the manner of burying bishops,--

"Episcopus debet habere annulum, quia sponsus est. Cæteri sacerdotes
non, quia sponsi non sunt, sed amici sponsi vel vicarii."--_De Antiquis
Ecclesiæ Ritibus_, lib. III. cap. xii. n. 11.

CEYREP.

_Butler's "Lives of the Saints."_--Can any of your correspondents supply a correct list of the various editions of this popular work? The notices in Watt and Lowndes are very unsatisfactory.

J. YEOWELL.

_Marriage of Cousins._--It was asserted to me the other day that marriage with a _second_ cousin is, by the laws of England, illegal, and that succession to property has been lately barred to the issue of such marriage, though the union of _first_ cousins entails no such consequences. Is there any foundation for this statement?

J. P.

_Castle Thorpe_[4], _Bucks._--A traditional rhyme is current at this place which says that--

"If it hadn't been for Cobb-bush Hill,
Thorpe Castle would have stood there still."

or the last line, according to another version,--

"There would have been a castle at Thorpe still."

Now it appears from Lipscomb's _History_ of the county, that the castle was demolished by Fulke de Brent about 1215; how then can this tradition be explained?

Cobb-bush Hill, I am told, is more than half a mile from the village.

H. THOS. WAKE.

[Footnote 4: Pronounced _Thrup_.]

_Where was Edward II. killed?_--Hume and Lingard state that this monarch was murdered at Berkeley Castle. Echard and Rapin are silent, both as to the event and as to the locality. But an earlier authority, viz. Martyn, in his _Historie and Lives of Twentie Kings_, 1615, says:

"He was committed to the Castle of Killingworth, and Prince Edward was
crowned king. And not long after, the king being removed to the Castle
of Corff, was wickedly assayled by his keepers, who, through a horne
which they put in his," &c.

What authority had Martyn for these statements?