Chapter XXIV: Section 3: of the By-laws to include representation of state, (12)
Mr. HANDY: I was particularly interested in Mr. Marion's discussion, and in one suggestion more especially, that the library school might specialize somewhat more along the lines of special library work. While I think that might well be brought up as a subject of discussion this evening, I should like to say just now that it seems to me, in the first place, that there is a great dearth of properly prepared assistants to do the kind of work that is needed in the special library. I think the libraries that specialize in business library work have found that to be true, and that these library schools in general are not particularly adapted to meet that requirement. It occurs to me, then, that it might be possible for special libraries, possibly through the co-operation of the American Library Association, to get the library schools of the country, at some time in their course, to offer a more specialized course which could be taken by those students who intend to specialize in library work, and that in that course an attempt be made to develop the special library attitude, which is absolutely and wholly different from the general library attitude, toward the subjects handled. It seems to me that several exceedingly good things could come of it. In the first place, if the library schools would do for special libraries as they do for general libraries, that is, if they would select a certain number of libraries, which measure up to certain standards, throughout the country, and assign pupils to those libraries, with the understanding that before they could be qualified they would have to measure up to a certain standard; then a student who spent a certain amount of time in such a library would receive credit for special library work in the library course, exactly the same as students do now in general library work. Then I think you would find that you would get, in the first place, more specialized students; in the second place, I think you would lift the plane of special library work immensely, you would lift it to a much higher plane of professionalism and you would find that your directors and your people who pay the money to support these libraries would vie with one another to be qualified by the leading library schools in the country, and I think that in itself would be an inducement to a good many halting business concerns to support, as they are not supporting now, their libraries; they would see the advertising value of being endorsed by the leading library schools in the country, if they did not see anything else, and they would pay the money necessary to bring their own libraries up to that degree of efficiency.
On the other hand, it seems to me that the special library is offering an exceptionally interesting field to young women going into library work, and that the library schools as at present organized are not pointing the way to them as they should; and possibly the library schools are not in a position to do it. I did not mean to consider this at this point, but I do think that is one of the subjects that might be seriously considered now or this evening, and, if necessary, a committee appointed to go over the whole subject, and possibly co-operate with the American Library Association or the library schools, whichever might be necessary, to bring it to a focus.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: It might be of interest to know that in Simmons we have a library school which appoints special courses with a view to fitting women especially for economic and business library work.
Do you desire, Mr. Handy, to put your suggestion in the form of a motion now or later?
Mr. HANDY: My motion, then, would be this, that the subject of co-operation between the library schools and the special libraries, with the aim of preparing students especially for special library work, be taken up at the conference this evening. (Carried)
The VICE-PRESIDENT: Before we take up any further discussion, out of respect to the Chairman of the Municipal Year Book Committee, I wish to ask for a report from that joint committee, of which Mr. Ranck is chairman.
Mr. RANCK: I can only report progress again. I had hoped to be able to report something very definite at this time. Our committee had a meeting in New York in June, after the Pasadena meeting, at which time there were present Mr. Baker, the editor of "Engineering News;" Professor Hart of Harvard; Professor Rowe of the University of Pennsylvania; Mr. Woodruff of the National Municipal League, Dr. Whitten of the New York Public Service Library and myself. I think that includes all of the persons who were present.
The committee discussed first of all what should be included in a municipal year book, and as a result of that discussion, which lasted three hours, in the City Club, Mr. Woodruff was delegated to take up with certain publishing houses the project of putting this thing through. I have had several letters from Mr. Woodruff within the last few months, or weeks, on this subject, and he hoped to have a definite announcement ready for this meeting. The delay has been on account of the fact that the head of one of the publishing houses, the one that seemed most favorable toward this project, and a publishing house that is in the business of making year books and encyclopedias, was in Europe, and so Mr. Woodruff could not get that thing put through. However, he is in hopes that it may be put through almost any day.
I may say that thus far the prospects of our having for the cities of the United States and Canada an American municipal year book, are altogether favorable.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: Do you wish the committee to be continued?
Mr. RANCK: I think we have this in hand and that perhaps we might continue it.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: This committee has rather a unique function anyway. It speaks for both the State Libraries and the Special Libraries associations, a joint committee.
Mr. RANCK: And there was brought into it the National Municipal League and several others.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: Doubtless the National Municipal Review will contain in time notes of the proceedings of that committee, so that the members will be informed. Could it not be done that way?
Mr. RANCK: As soon as the thing is definitely decided I will notify the secretary.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: Yes, but I mean it would be available for any one to read in the National Municipal Review which appears from time to time.
Mr. RANCK: Probably, yes. If I may be permitted, I should like to say a word about another matter that was under discussion this afternoon. I was very much interested in what was said about present engineering training and the kind of training of men who are going into business, in their use of books, and their demand on libraries. A few weeks ago I had the privilege of going through one of the largest electric lamp factories in the country, one of whose branches has 2000 people employed, and I was particularly interested in the corps of professional men. I went there to visit a friend of mine who is a physical engineer. He was a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, was afterward at the head of the department of physics in one of our state institutions, and was taken from that into this concern, and within the last three years that concern has engaged, I think, four or five doctors of philosophy, four or five men who have been professors in technical schools, and they are going at that business altogether different from the rule of thumb method; and that type of men who are accustomed to use books and who do use them are coming into demand more and more. One thing my friend said, that impressed me very much, was this, that in going about to a number of engineering schools, Cornell, the State College of Pennsylvania and several others, he has been talking to the boys taking engineering courses, of the chances and opportunities for going into that sort of work. These companies are after technically trained men from the colleges and universities and they send men like him out to talk to the boys and try to get them to come into their works. Another thing he emphasized, and which I think we must keep in our mind all the time--it is a thing we emphasize as librarians of the public libraries, but it has a bearing in the work of this organization as well--he said he was telling the boys at Cornell and those other engineering schools that while engineers have to deal with things, they have to know science; yet that more than half of the problems of the average engineer are problems of men rather than problems of things. In other words, that the humanities must be studied; that you must know sociology--that was referred to here this afternoon--and economics, just as much as chemistry and business and all that sort of thing. In short the two must go together.
Mr. G. W. LEE: Mr. Chairman, you have a question box there which has been forgotten all about, and I am not very sorry.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: No, I haven't. I am going to put it in for discussion, the whole thing.
Mr. LEE: There were no questions, I think, except the question box. I should like to question that. There ought to be some machinery at these conferences for introducing the new members; some method by which we can all let it be known what we especially want to know; some way to meet the people that have this information.
Now, what I want to say about the question box is that it seems to me that the Special Libraries Association might introduce a circular that tells about the next conference of the American Library Association, and could put in a little slip saying, "Please send to headquarters a statement of what you want to know, what is your specialty." It would help immensely. People come here to get some information; they want to know about filing photographs, about dry-goods libraries and so on, and we ought to make it possible for them to get something out of the convention without trying too hard.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: I think Mr. Lee has raised a very natural question. I have talked with some of the older members of the American Library Association, and it seems to be the feeling that we have lost something since we have grown so large. With eight hundred members, it is almost impossible to know every one personally, as it was when there were only a couple of hundred in attendance at the meetings. The New York library meeting in September will bring together as many people as used to come to the American Library Association meetings ten or fifteen years ago. I do not see any way out of it except to follow some definite method from headquarters so that the American Library Association itself can arrange the matter. It is not a matter of hospitality necessarily, but oftentimes the stranger within our gates is the one that suffers in these respects. After you have been to three or four conventions you enjoy yourself, but the first year it is difficult to know people.
Mr. MORTON: I should like to offer a suggestion with regard to the difficulty of the newer members getting to know the older ones. I find out that the way to get acquainted is to pitch in and do some work. Then they have to know you. I would therefore suggest putting the younger members on the various committees and make them work and work hard; then they will come to know people.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: You have brought up a very important point, and that is what we might call the committee system. The system has often failed by being limited to three members. The chairman does the work and sends around to the other members to sign up; or they live at various points of the country and the chairman forgets to do the work or for various reasons fails to report. The way to get the best results is to appoint a committee of one and get the work done by that committee, and if he does not do the work, discharge him and get another person in his place who will do the work. We are suggesting now a re-arrangement of that method by which we can get, I think, better results, in answer to your remarks.
Mr. MARION: I wonder if Mr. Handy would develop a little the idea that was brought out in a conversation that he held with me some little time ago in Boston, in which he pointed out the sort of large opportunities that come to the special librarian, that do not come to the public librarian, and cannot from the very nature of things.
Mr. HANDY: I had in mind especially when I was talking with Mr. Marion a man who at present holds the position of assistant manager in New York of the Fire Insurance Exchange. I think his salary is between six and seven thousand a year. It happens that he is a very bright fellow, and he is taking charge also of evening classes in the New York University school of commerce and accounts, which adds another thousand dollars a year to his salary. I am speaking, in this, simply from the standpoint of salary. He started in as a special librarian. He came into opportunities solely through the close personal contact with superiors who were looking for exactly this kind of advisory and expert service that I tried to emphasize in my paper. Of course, he made good in the smaller position, and through making good there got the opportunity to go to New York in the first place, in a position, which while not particularly better than the one he had occupied as librarian, was better in opportunities and much beyond anything that any special library would be likely to offer; and he has so far made good in New York that he has come into the opportunity that I spoke of, and he has the present salary, which of course carries with it responsibilities; but it seems to me it will be a great many years before in general library work one would find an opportunity like that for advancement, because it was all done in about seven or eight years. It is that possibility of getting in close contact with the heads of great industrial organizations and great enterprises, and by making one's self extremely serviceable and valuable there, that makes the special library a particularly promising field either for bright men or bright women. It is not the library service in itself but it is the opportunity of getting into close contact with men who have made great successes in business, and that opportunity, I think, does not come to the general librarian. The person entering the general library must expect that the top of the work is simply the library opportunities themselves, and, of course, they are somewhat limited. A person entering special library work feels that the top is the whole vast industrial or commercial enterprise in which he is engaged, and if he has the adaptability--and that is precisely the thing which we have been trying to emphasize as necessary in library work,--he naturally, as time goes on, sees the field of opportunity broadening, and the opportunity comes for him to step out of the more restricted into the larger, more active field.
I know another person who received a very interesting offer, with a considerably larger salary and greater executive responsibilities, due entirely to the fact that he had made good in special library work; to the fact that that work brought him into contact with superiors who were able to help him into a broader opportunity. I think that is well worth emphasizing for either men or women interested in this meeting.
Mr. LAPP: Just that fact is the reason why we should have some means of training special librarians. The good men are being drawn off so rapidly that it is impossible for the demand to be supplied, and I am glad that the question of training librarians is coming up, and I hope that when it does come up we shall have some provision made for a committee that will work out a complete scheme in co-operation with the American Library Association and the library schools for the training of special librarians. But right there we should also emphasize the fact that it is not merely the librarians that should be trained, but we should train the directors of the establishments, and it ought to be emphasized in all special library work that there is a difference. I would agree with many who have spoken before, that the director of an establishment need not necessarily be a person trained in library work, although a person trained in library wok could make a good success of it if he also had an insight into the business. But I would emphasize the fact that we need a training for directors of establishments and we also need a special training for librarians and assistants. It is a great deal in the library world as it is in the college world, that the men who become really worth while as college professors, in the commercial departments at least, and in the engineering departments, unless they have a taste for the teaching work which would prevent their leaving it, do not stay very long in the business of teaching, and the college must continually recruit new men, and that is a difficulty that is going to confront the Special Libraries Association and people who are establishing special libraries, more and more. I believe that if the number of concerns today that ought to have special libraries and would profit wonderfully by them, were to attempt to get special librarians or directors of departments, they would fail completely and the whole movement would go to the bad, simply because you could not supply the people who would be competent for the work. The same thing is true of municipal reference departments. It is unfortunate if they are established and men who are not qualified are put in charge. The same thing is true of legislative reference departments. We might better wait for years rather than establish them before we can put them in charge of people who appreciate the work to be done, and who have the ability to do it. So that I think our big problem is to keep the special library movement from growing too fast for us to supply the men and women who can do the work; and I would emphasize again that we need two or three different kinds of training; one for those who are to have general direction of the work, for those who are to do the actual work on the library side, and also for the assistant side.
Mr. LEE: One difference is that in the public library you are being asked questions all the time, and in the special library you are being asked questions two-thirds of the time, and the other third you ask questions yourselves, so you get the benefit of variety; part of the time you are a student, and the rest of the time you are a librarian, and there is that stimulating, broadening effect, and to me it has been a very uplifting effect.
Mr. MORTON: Mr. Marion spoke of the training of the librarian, also Mr. Lapp and one or two others. I do not know whether our position is particularly unique, but some months ago I lost my assistant, and instead of going to a library man I considered myself extremely fortunate to get a man who was a graduate chemist, a civil engineer, a mining engineer and a man who had had wide experience in all of those branches. It seems to me that for technical business the practical training in the particular line of business is of far greater value than training in any library system, simply on account of the nature of the information that they are called upon to produce.
Miss LINDHOLM: I wish to add a word to what Mr. Lapp has said, to point out the fact that even if we should try to give courses in special library work in the library school, there would not be any teachers in the library school qualified to give these courses, because they would not have the special library experience, and we ourselves are too busy running our special libraries to give the courses, so that it is really a matter quite far in the future, I should think. Last spring I read in the Library Journal a very good article on a course for legislative reference librarians, but that is the first article of the kind I have ever seen, although I had often thought about it myself.
Another thing that would help out in trying to give some idea of special library methods to new people, would be for those of us who have gotten our libraries well in hand, our systems, etc., to get up a series of little handbooks on how to organize a financial library, a public utilities library, a legislative reference library and so on, those who are perhaps library school students could use these pamphlets as text-books. This would necessitate our starting in the publishing business and having a publishing board, like the American Library Association.
Miss HOAGLAND: I think we should fail in our whole duty toward the library profession, and especially to the profession of the special librarian, if we did not take some account of this growing demand for training in special library work. I think that we appreciate the great difficulty of combination of the technical work that is necessary in library training and the special library field that each might wish to occupy. It has seemed to me that it was possible to make a combination by giving a minimum of library training, and then for students to specialize in some business lines and learn the bibliography of that trade. Of course, that is a very difficult operation in the ordinary library school, but I believe there are places in the country where that might be acquired, where many businesses are present, capable of furnishing the libraries, and where students can take, say, three months of technical training, which would include typewriting of records, and then can be sent into the field to learn that field, the school to furnish them the special bibliography for that special work. In that way I believe we could develop a series of libraries that would train for special librarianship.
Miss MILLER: There is already one school, the Wisconsin school, which gives regular instruction to such students as wish to take up legislative reference work. They are given from one to two months library experience during those two months in the winter when the other members of the class go to the public libraries. They at least get the principles of legislative reference work.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: If there is no further discussion, we will take up the reports of committees, and the first will be Mr. Lapp's report, as editor of the publication.
Mr. LAPP: There is very little to report in regard to the publication. It has been issued regularly since January, 1910, and the third volume is now nearly completed. The growth of subscriptions has been gratifying, and the publication has been able to do what was done on the membership which we have had. We hope to have an increased membership, because there are a number of things which we can do. We have now regularly established several sources of information, we are going to have others, and out of those we will publish, I think, a better, more useful magazine the coming year than we have in the past. We have a connection with the Library of Congress by which a special bibliography is furnished every month upon some obscure question. We have a connection with the New York public library by which we receive municipal documents. We have a connection with the Public Utilities Committee by which we will have public utility references and the others, insurance references and so on. The publication will issue also some special bibliographies such as the one that was issued recently on city planning. It will take up certain others and publish them as means permit.
The main thing I want to ask as editor of "Special Libraries" is that the editor should receive co-operation from persons connected with the association. This is a co-operative enterprise and every one should co-operate. Whenever you know of anything which has happened in your community in the special library interest, or of any publication that does not get into the ordinary sources, furnish that to the editor and it will be scattered over the country through "Special Libraries."
A new system will be organized following this meeting, we hope, by which the country will be divided into districts in each of which there will be one person who will be responsible for that district, and we hope in that way to keep in closer touch. We will also have a representative in the different classes of special libraries so that no one will be left out, and we will get reports from all persons who are representing the different departments in the special libraries, which now number perhaps seven or eight that are active different classes of libraries.
I want to ask for suggestions also from the members of the association about things that we want published. I would be glad to receive letters. I do not receive enough of them; and, another thing, I do not receive criticisms. There are many things we would like to know about the publication, many things we would like to learn. We would like to hear from you either one way or the other on the publication.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: I will call for the report of the Committee on Public Utilities, Mr. Morton.
(Mr. Morton rendered a brief report which is available in the secretary's office to those who may be interested to see it.)
The session then adjourned.
FOURTH (EXTRA) SESSION
(Monday, July 1, 8:15 p. m.)
After an informal interchange of ideas among a small group of people who gathered in the private dining room, the business session, continued from the afternoon, was called to order by Vice-President Brigham. In view of the small attendance and in order to allow greater publicity the meeting was adjourned to Tuesday, July 2, 9:30 a. m.
FIFTH (SECOND JOINT) SESSION
(Tuesday, July 2, 9:30 a. m.)
The second joint session was attended by the National Association of State Libraries, the American Association of Law Libraries and the Special Libraries Association delegates, and was presided over by Mr. Brigham, vice-president of the Special Libraries Association. The meeting was held in the ball room of the Chateau Laurier.
Mr. Charles J. Babbitt of the Massachusetts state library read the first paper, entitled "Snags, stumbling blocks and pitfalls among the session laws." During the course of his paper Mr. Babbitt touched upon some very interesting phases of these questions. In the absence of Mr. James MKirdy, Mr. Thomas Montgomery, state librarian of Pennsylvania, presented his paper, entitled "Bill drafting." Following this, in the absence of Dr. John H. Arnold, librarian of the Harvard Law School, Mr. George S. Godard read his paper, entitled "The history of the growth and development of the Harvard university law library." Great regret was expressed at the absence of Dr. Arnold, who may now be looked upon as the father of law libraries.
Following this Mr. Lapp discussed the question of co-operation between legislative reference departments. This address also covered a report upon the same subject as well as a report on legislative reference service. Mr. Godard followed with general remarks, in which he called attention to the great changes in our present social life, brought about by improvements in our methods of transportation, so that now our view point is so much broader that in the drawing of bills we can no longer overlook what other states are doing, hence the great necessity for co-operation and wider knowledge in this field. He reviewed briefly the work of the Law Reporting Company and tried to point out how service such as they had rendered might be made practical. He appealed for a national legislative information bureau, and he questioned whether this could ever be brought about by co-operation, but rather insisted that it must be a definitely established service run for profit or subsidized by government support. The chairman called attention to the library law abstracts which are probably present in every state library in one form or another. In these abstracts minute subjects are touched upon which are difficult to get at. The material usually exists only in carbon form. As a result of an interview with a commercial concern, the chairman found that with the use of the multigraph this firm would agree to furnish three hundred copies for $1.00 a folio with $5.00 for composition and general work. This would mean on a thirty folio, a total of $35.00 for an issue of three hundred copies. He suggested that such material be sent to a central agency and believed that such a scheme could be worked out successfully. Mr. Babbitt called attention to several interesting instances where the assistance of such a scheme would have been invaluable in furthering greater publicity for material which was only found through co-operation among the state libraries. Dr. Clement W. Andrews believed that this sort of work should be done at the American Library Association headquarters and thought with competent operators this was the most practical way to have it done. He also called attention to the fact that the Illinois State Bankers Association had asked the John Crerar library to undertake an analysis of the State Banking Association publications. He offered to send circulars covering that work to any state or law libraries that might find them of usefulness.
Mr. D. N. Handy of the Insurance Library Association of Boston spoke in regard to the recently organized legislative bureau of the National Board of Fire Underwriters. One of the chief functions of this bureau will be to bring together an abstract card index of the laws in the various states in the country bearing on fire insurance. Recently the Association of Life Insurance Presidents has completed a card index abstract of the laws bearing on life insurance, comprising something like four thousand cards. Mr. Godard offered further discussion which he finally followed with a motion to the effect "that our committee on resolutions prepare suitable resolution directed to Congress, endorsing the bill now before Congress looking toward the permanent establishment of a legislative bureau at Washington and expressing our hope that it may be established in the very near future, and at the same time expressing our willingness to co-operate in any way that we can." Mr. Montgomery, as chairman of the Committee on resolutions then offered several resolutions.[18]
[18] These resolutions will be found in full in the proceedings of the National Association of State Libraries, which will be printed by that association.
Mr. Johnson Brigham of Iowa then opened up the discussion of the relation between state libraries and legislative reference bureaus, to which Mr. Montgomery replied. General discussion followed in which several told of the actual working relations between these two jurisdictions in their several states. The meeting adjourned at 12:24 p. m.
SIXTH (BUSINESS) SESSION
(Tuesday, July 2, 12:25 p. m.)
At the close of the second joint session, a business meeting of the Special Libraries Association was called to order by Vice-President Herbert O. Brigham in the ball room of the Chateau Laurier.
The VICE-PRESIDENT: The first business is the report of the secretary-treasurer.
Mr. MARION: The membership has increased, from September, 1911, from 171 members, until June, 1912, to 224 members, which is an increase of thirty per cent. The bulletin has increased in pages from 12 to 16. The financial situation seems to be very satisfactory. We have a cash balance of $292.15. There seems to be an increased call for special librarians in heretofore unknown fields. The following statement indicates the condition of the treasury as of the date given:
SPECIAL LIBRARIES ASSOCIATION
July 1, 1912.
Financial statement of the books as of the above date.
=Receipts=
Cash on hand Sept. 27, 1911 $119.07
Membership fees and subscriptions 415.80
Sale of back numbers 85.28
Sale of reprints, bibliographies, etc. 31.13
Advertising 12.00
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$663.28
=Expenditures=
Rent of hall at New York meeting 15.00
Stenographic work of New York meeting 15.00
Postage, telegrams, express, etc. 41.08
Storage cabinet for editor's office 13.25
Indexing of volume 1 10.00
Printing 275.50
Bank Exchange 1.30 371.13
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July 1, 1912, Cash on hand $292.15
Accounts Receivable 144.10
Accounts Payable no bills
rendered
GUY E. MARION, Treasurer.
On motion of Mr. Montgomery the report was received.
The CHAIRMAN: The report of the executive board of the Special Libraries Association is brief. It is proposed during the coming year to readjust as far as possible the committee system and substitute therefor representatives for certain sections of the country, so that the persons who represent those sections shall be responsible for the part in which they are located. It is entirely a matter for the board. I think that will be the extent of their report, in brief, and I will now call for the report of the nominating committee, Mr. Lee.
Mr. LEE: The nominating committee respectfully submits the following list of officers for the ensuing year:
President: D. N. Handy, Boston.
Vice-President: R. H. Johnston, Washington.
Secretary-Treasurer: G. E. Marion, Boston.
Executive Board: Officers ex-officio: O. E. Norman, Chicago;
Florence Spencer, New York.
There being no counter nominations, on motion, the secretary cast a ballot for the association, and the chair declared the nominees elected for their respective offices.
Mr HANDY: Will it be in order now to take up the matter of special education for the special training of library assistants?
The CHAIRMAN: That comes under the head of new business, which we are now taking up. You are quite in order.
Mr. HANDY: I would make a motion that a committee of three be appointed by the President, upon the training of special librarians, with instructions to report upon this matter at the next annual meeting.
The motion was seconded by Mr. Lapp and carried.
Upon motion of Dr. Andrews the meeting adjourned sine die.
ATTENDANCE SUMMARIES
=By Position and Sex=
Men Women Total
Trustees 21 O 21
Library Commissions representatives 9 12 21
Chief librarians 103 130 233
Assistants 50 191 241
Library schools 1 13 14
Editors of lib. periodicals 2 2 4
Commercial agents 24 3 27
Others 38 105 143
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Total 248 456 704
=By Geographical Sections=
6 of the 6 New England States sent 99
5 " 5 North Atlantic States and
District of Columbia sent 179
5 " 6 South-eastern States sent 12
7 " 7 North Central States " 203
3 " 6 South Central States " 23
7 " 11 Western States " 26
4 " 7 Pacific States " 16
5 " Canadian Provinces " 144
England " 1
Japan " 1
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Total 704
=By States=
Alabama 1
California 8
Colorado 4
Connecticut 17
Delaware 1
District Columbia 20
Florida 1
Georgia 5
Illinois 82
Indiana 17
Iowa 10
Kansas 5
Kentucky 5
Louisiana 1
Maine 5
Maryland 6
Massachusetts 53
Michigan 34
Minnesota 9
Missouri 17
Nebraska 4
New Hampshire 7
New Jersey 13
New York 99
North Carolina 2
Ohio 45
Oklahoma 1
Oregon 1
Pennsylvania 40
Rhode Island 8
South Dakota 1
Texas 1
Utah 1
Vermont 9
Virginia 3
Washington 6
West Virginia 1
Wisconsin 15
=By Provinces=
Alberta 1
British Columbia 1
Manitoba 3
Ontario 125
Quebec 13
Saskatchewan 1
=Foreign Countries=
England 1
Japan 1
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Total 704
=By Libraries=
Libraries having five or more representatives:
Brooklyn Public L. 8
Chicago Public L. 22
Cleveland Public L. 24
Detroit Public L. 8
Grand Rapids Public L. 6
Illinois, L. of Univ. of 10
Indiana State L. 5
John Crerar L. 7
Library of Congress 10
McGill Univ. L. 9
New York Public L. 7
New York State L. 12
Ottawa Public L. 11
Pittsburgh Carnegie L. 11
St. Louis Public L. 12
Toronto Public L. 10
=Note=: Those who participated in post-conference trip _only_ are not counted in above statistics.
ATTENDANCE REGISTER
* Prefixed to a name indicates participation in post-conference
trip on the lower St. Lawrence and Saguenay Rivers.
** Prefixed to a name indicates participation in post-conference
trip only.
Abbreviations: F., Free; P., Public; L., Library; ln., Librarian;
asst., Assistant; trus., Trustee; ref., Reference; catlgr.,
Cataloger; Br., Branch; sch., School.
Abbot, Etheldred, asst. ln. P. L., Brookline, Mass.
Ahearn, Mrs. Thomas, Ottawa, Can.
*Ahern, Mary Eileen, editor "Public Libraries," Chicago, Ill.
*Alexander, W. H., asst. ln. Assn. of the Bar, New York City.
*Alexander, Mrs. W. H., New York City.
Allin, Eugenia, organizer Ill. L. Ex. Commission, Decatur, Ill.
*Anderson, Mrs. C. N., Detroit, Mich.
Anderson, Edwin H., asst. director P. L., New York City.
Anderson, John R., bookseller, New York City.
*Anderson, Margaret M., asst. P. L., Detroit, Mich.
Anderson, Robert B., asst. ln. Harvard Law L., Cambridge, Mass.
Andrews, Clement W., ln. John Crerar L., Chicago, Ill.
Andrus, Gertrude E., supt. child. dept., Seattle, Wash.
*Anthony, Grace F., New York City.
Arbique, Georgette, asst. P. L., Ottawa, Can.
Archer, Frances R., ln. P. L., Talladega, Ala.
Arms, Jessie L., 1st asst. catlgr., Univ. of Iowa, Iowa City, Ia.
*Askew, Sarah B., organizer P. L. Commission, Trenton, N. J.
Ault, A. W., trus. P. L., Ottawa, Can.
Austen, Willard, asst. ln. Cornell Univ. L., Ithaca, N. Y.
Austen, Mrs. Willard, Ithaca, N. Y.
Ayer, Clarence W., ln. P. L., Cambridge, Mass.
Babbitt, Charles J., asst. State L., Boston, Mass.
Baer, Harriet Irene, Hebrew Institute Br., P. L., Chicago, Ill.
Bailey, Arthur L., ln. Wilmington Inst. F. L., Wilmington, Del.
Baker, Charlotte A., ln. State Agric. Coll., Fort Collins, Colo.
Baker, Herbert W., Ottawa, Can.
Baker, Mary N., ln. P. L., Elwood, Ind.
Ball, Fanny D., ln. Central High Sch., Grand Rapids, Mich.
*Banks, Mary, ln. P. Service L. of N. J., Newark, N. J.
Banton, T. W., trus. P. L., Toronto, Can.
Barickman, Mrs. Rena M., ln. P. L., Joliet, Ill.
*Barnett, Claribel R., ln. U. S. Dept. of Agric., Washington, D. C.
Barnett, J. Davis, sec'y-treas. P. L., Stratford, Ont.
Barnstead, Winifred G., asst. catalog dept. P. L., Toronto, Can.
Barry, May H., asst. Geological Survey L., Ottawa, Can.
*Bascom, Elva L., editor A. L. A. Booklist, Madison, Wis.
Bates, Helen C., chief order dept. P. L., Detroit, Mich.
Bates, Mary R., asst. ln. Univ. of Vt., Burlington, Vt.
Baxter, Miss, asst. ln. P. L., London, Ont.
Beatty, Alma, ln. P. L., Pembroke, Ont.
Beer, William, ln. Howard Mem. L., New Orleans, La.
*Bell, Madelene M., senior asst. child. dept. F. P. L., Worcester,
Mass.
Bergman, F. W., mgr. Chateau Laurier, Ottawa, Can.
Bergold, Bertha R., asst. Lincoln L., Springfield, Ill.
Bergold, Mrs. E., Springfield, Ill.
Berry, Ethel I., N. Y. State L. Sch., Albany, N. Y.
Billingsley, Mary P., asst. ln. State L., Topeka, Kas.
Black, Mary J. L., ln. P. L., Fort William, Ont.
Blackwelder, Paul, asst. ln. P. L., St. Louis, Mo.
*Blanchard, Grace, ln. P. L., Concord, N. H.
Bligh, Harris H., ln. Supreme Court L., Ottawa, Can.
Bliss, Robert P., asst. sec'y F. L. Commission, Harrisburg, Pa.
Blodgett, Evelyn M., catlgr. State L., Montpelier, Vt.
Bogle, Sarah C. N., director Training Sch. for Children's Lns.,
Carnegie L., Pittsburgh, Pa.
Booth, Mary J., ln. State Normal Sch. L., Charleston, Ill.
Borchard, Edwin M., law ln. L. of Congress, Washington, D. C.
Borresen, Lily M. E., ln. P. L., Two Harbors, Minn.
Bostwick, Andrew Linn, technical ln. P. L., St. Louis, Mo.
Bostwick, Arthur E., ln. P. L., St. Louis, Mo.
Bostwick, Mrs. A. E., St. Louis, Mo.
Bowerman, George F., ln. P. L., Washington, D. C.
*Bowker, R. R., editor "Library Journal," New York City.
*Bowker, Mrs. R. R., Stockbridge, Mass.
Boyd, Anne M., ln. James Millikin Univ., Decatur, Ill.
Boyd, Edward J., mgr. Cassell Co. Ltd., Toronto, Can.
Boyd, Mrs. W. P., Arthur, Ill.
Boyle, Gertrude M., asst. catalog dept. P. L., Toronto, Ont.
Brandenburg, S. J., ln. Miami Univ. L., Oxford, O.
Brett, William H., ln. P. L., Cleveland, O.
*Briggs, Walter B., ln. Trinity Coll., Hartford, Conn.
*Briggs, Mrs. Walter B., Hartford, Conn.
Brigham, Herbert O., ln. State L., Providence, R. I.
Brigham, Johnson, ln. State L., Des Moines, Ia.
*Brown, Alice Harris, ln. Kingsbridge Br., P. L., New York City.
Brown, Demarchus C., ln. State L., Indianapolis, Ind.
Brown, Geo. A., chairman Carnegie P. L., Campbellford, Ont.
Brown, Walter L., ln. P. L., Buffalo, N. Y.
Browning, Eliza G., ln. P. L., Indianapolis, Ind.
Brydone, William, trus. P. L., Clinton, Ont.
Bryson, Dr. Mary, Ottawa, Can.
Bucher, Mrs. E. A. Sherwood, asst. U. S. Dept. of Agric. L.,
Washington, D. C.
Bulmer, Jeanie N., ln. Y. W. C. A., New York City.
Burpee, Lawrence J., Ottawa, Can.
Burpee, Mrs. L. J., Ottawa, Can.
*Burr, Clara J., Rocky Hill, Conn.
Burrell, Hon. Martin, minister of agriculture, Ottawa, Can.
Burrell, Mrs. Martin, Ottawa, Can.
Butler, H. L., Am. Law L., New York City.
Butters, Mary T., ln. P. L., Niagara Falls, Ont.
Byam, C. A., chairman P. L., New Liskeard, Ont.
Calder, Mrs. Mary E., ln. P. L., Fenelon Falls, Ont.
Caldwell, Clara A., asst. P. L., Cleveland, O.
Caldwell, Lena E., ln. P. L., Flint, Mich.
*Calhoun, Alexander, ln. P. L., Calgary, Alta.
*Calhoun, Marion, asst. ln. Geological Survey L., Ottawa, Can.
*Calhoun, Mrs. R. C., Ottawa, Can.
Cameron, A. W., ex-pres. Ont. L. Assn., Woodstock, Ont.
Carey, Miriam E., organizer P. L. Com., St. Paul, Minn.
Carr, Henry J., ln. P. L., Scranton, Pa.
Carr, Mrs. Henry J., Scranton, Pa.
Carson, W. O., ln. P. L., London, Ont.
Carswell, F. Edina, Toronto, Can.
Carswell, R., law book publisher, Toronto, Can.
Carswell, Mrs. R., Toronto, Can.
Carter, Bertha, asst. catlg. dept. State L., Indianapolis, Ind.
Casey, Magdalen, ln. Archives L., Ottawa, Can.
Caswell, E. S., sec'y-treas. P. L., Toronto, Can.
Champion, Miss J. H., ln. P. L., Sault Ste. Marie, Ont.
Chapin, Artena M., ln. A. K. Smiley P. L., Redlands, Cal.
Chapman, Effie Louise, ln's sec'y, P. L., Seattle, Wash.
Charlton, Miss M. R., ln. Medical L., McGill Univ., Montreal, Can.
Charlton, Ruby, N. Y. State L. Sch., Albany, N. Y.
Charteris, Dr. C. R., pres. Ontario L. Assn., Chatham, Ont.
Chase, Kate B., asst. P. L., Chicago, Ill.
Cheney, George N., ln. Court of Appeals L., Syracuse, N. Y.
Cheney, Mrs. George N., Syracuse, N. Y.
Chidester, Maud, children's ln. P. L., Evanston, Ill.
Chipman, Frank E., managing director Boston Book Co., Boston, Mass.
Chivers, Cedric, bookbinder, Brooklyn, N. Y.
Clapp, Clifford B., catlgr. Dartmouth Coll. L., Hanover, N. H.
*Clark, Mrs. George Edward, Skaneateles, N. Y.
Clark, Geo. L., State L., Lansing, Mich.
Clark, Mrs. G. L. Lansing, Mich.
Clarke, Edith E., head catlgr. Syracuse Univ. L., Syracuse, N. Y.
*Clarke, Elizabeth P., ln. Seymour L. Auburn, N. Y.
*Clayton, Reta, Ocean Grove, N. J.
Cleavinger, John S., ln. P. L., Jackson, Mich.
Cleland, Ethel, asst. & catlgr. leg. ref. dept., State L.,
Indianapolis, Ind.
*Clement, Caroline B., asst. P. L., Manchester, N. H.
Climie, Janet, asst. P. L., Listowel, Ont.
Climie, Lillie, ln. P. L., Listowel, Ont.
Cobb, Edith H., asst. F. P. L., New Bedford, Mass.
*Cochran, Mary R., ln. Walnut Hills Br., P. L., Cincinnati, O.
Colby, Adah M., supt. of branches and apprentices, P. L., Brooklyn,
N. Y.
Colegrove, Mrs. Mabel E., Heermance Mem. L., Coxsackie, N. Y.
*Cotter, Minnie B., ln. P. L., Derby, Conn.
*Craig, Jennie A., custodian English Seminar, Univ. of Ill., Urbana,
Ill.
Craver, Harrison W., ln. Carnegie L., Pittsburgh, Pa.
Craver, Mrs. H. W., Pittsburgh, Pa.
Crevecoeur, P. B. de, ln. Fraser Institute, Montreal, Can.
Crocker, Mary, chief open shelf dept. P. L., St. Louis, Mo.
**Crosby, Caroline R., Milford, N. H.
Crossley, F. B., ln. Northwestern Univ. Law L., Chicago, Ill.
Cruikshank, D. P., mngr. Library Bureau, Ottawa, Ont.
Cruikshank, Mrs. D. P., Ottawa, Ont.
Cunningham, Jesse, municipal ref. ln. P. L., St. Louis, Mo.
Curtiss, Frances, asst. P. L., Detroit, Mich.
Cutter, Annie S., supervisor sch. dept., P. L., Cleveland, O.
Cutter, W. P., ln. Engineering Societies L., New York City.
Cuttle, A. H., chairman L. board, Collingwood, Ont.
Cuttle, Mrs. M. A., Collingwood, Ont.
*Dakin, Maude I., asst. L. of Congress, Washington, D. C.
Dale, Dorethea P., asst, P. L., Cleveland, O.
*Dame, Katharine, instructor N. Y. State L. Sch., Albany, N. Y.
Daout, Emilieu, vice-pres. Librarie Beauchemin, Montreal, Can.
Datz, H. R., Library Bureau, New York City.
Davis, Eva, asst. P. L., Toronto, Can.
*Davis, Georgia S., asst. P. L., Grand Rapids, Mich.
Davis, Mary I., 1st asst. Carnegie West Br., P. L., Cleveland, O.
Davis, Mary L., ln. P. L., Troy, N. Y.
Davis, Orlando C., ln. P. L., Waltham, Mass.
Davison, Mrs. Hannah P., ln. P. L., San Diego, Cal.
DeCelles, Alfred D., ln. of Parliament, Ottawa, Can.
Dewar, A. F., Ottawa, Can.
**Dewey, Mrs. Melvil, Lake Placid Club, N. Y.
Dice, J. Howard, N. Y. State L. Sch., Albany, N. Y.
*Dickerson, L. L., ln. Iowa College L., Grinnell, Ia.
*Dill, Maude, Decatur, Ill.
Dinsmoor, Kate E., head catlgr. State L., Topeka, Kas.
*Dinsmore, Lucy C., ln. Walker Br., P. L., Minneapolis, Minn.
*Dobbins, Elizabeth V., ln. Am. Tel. & Tel. Co., New York City.
Doren, Electra C., Dayton, O.
Dougan, Alice M., N. Y. State L., Albany, N. Y.
*Dougherty, Anna R., chief art dept., F. L., Philadelphia, Pa.
Dougherty, Harold T., ln. Sayles Mem. L., Pawtucket, R. I.
*Dougherty, Helen R., Philadelphia, Pa.
Dow, Mary E., ln. P. L., Saginaw, Mich.
**Drury, Miss C. K., New Brunswick, N. J.
*Drury, F. K. W., asst. ln. Univ. of Ill., Urbana, Ill.
*Drury, Mrs. F. K. W., Urbana, Ill.
**Drury, Mrs. J. B., New Brunswick, N. J.
Drysdale, Sara E., head circ. dept., P. L., Ottawa, Can.
Dudgeon, M. S., sec'y Wis. F. L. Com., Madison, Wis.
Duefel, Jennie, P. L., Decatur, Ill.
Dunham, B. Mabel, ln. P. L., Berlin, Ont.
Durfee, Jennie T., Decatur, Ill.
Dwight, Edith C., ln. Ont. Agric. College L., Guelph, Ont.
Eakins, Wm. Geo., ln. Law Soc. of Upper Canada, Toronto, Can.
Eaman, Mabel, asst. John Crerar L., Chicago, Ill.
Eastman, Linda A., vice-ln. P. L., Cleveland, O.
Elliott, Caroline L., ref. ln. P. L., Chicago, Ill.
*Elliott, Edith L., clerk Democrat Printing Co., Madison, Wis.
Elliott, Thos. E., trus. P. L., Kenora, Ont.
Ellis, Helen, asst. P. L., Brooklyn, N. Y.
*Ellis, Victoria, ln. P. L., Long Beach, Cal.
Elmendorf, Mrs. H. L., vice-ln. P. L., Buffalo, N. Y.
Eno, Sara W., ln. Stetson Univ. L., DeLand, Fla.
Erb, Frederic W., supervisor loan div. and asst. ln., Columbia Univ.
L., New York City.
Erskine, Edith, ln. Mark White Sq. Br., P. L., Chicago, Ill.
Estabrooke, Mrs. Kate C., Maine L. Commission, Orono, Me.
Evans, Mrs. Alice G., ln. P. L., Decatur, Ill.
Fatout, Nellie B., Pacific Br., P. L., Brooklyn, N. Y.
Faxon, Frederick W., L. mgr., Boston Book Co., Boston, Mass.
Faxon, Mrs. F. W., Boston, Mass.
*Faxon, Mrs. Marcus, Boston, Mass.
Feazel, Ernest A., ln. Law L., Cleveland, O.
Fellows, Jennie D., instructor N. Y. State L. Sch., Albany, N. Y.
*Fenton, Polly, catlgr. P. L., Milwaukee. Wis.
Field, O. J., chief clerk Dept. of Justice, Washington, D. C.
Field, Pearl I., sen. asst. P. L., Chicago, Ill.
Field, Ruth K., asst. P. L., Cleveland, O.
*Fison, Herbert W., ln. P. L., Malden, Mass.
*Fix, Arminda L., Walla Walla, Wash.
Flexner, Jennie M., classifier F. P. L., Louisville, Ky.
Ford, Eva M., Chicago, Ill.
*Forstall, Gertrude, asst. catlgr. John Crerar L., Chicago, Ill.
Foster, Consul-General John G., Ottawa, Can.
Foster, Mrs. J. G., Ottawa, Can.
Fuller, George W., ln. P. L., Spokane, Wash.
*Furness, Margaret, sen. asst., John Crerar L., Chicago, Ill.
Gamble, Wm. B., chief tech. div., P. L., New York City.
Gay, Helen K., ln. P. L., New London, Conn.
Gaylord, H. J., Gaylord Brothers, Syracuse, N. Y.
Geddes, Helen C., asst. Univ. of Ill. L., Urbana, Ill.
George, C. A., ln. P. L., Elizabeth, N. J.
George, Mrs. C. A., Elizabeth, N. J.
*George, Lillian M., catlgr. Purdue Univ. L., Lafayette, Ind.
Gerould, J. T., ln. Univ. of Minn., Minneapolis, Minn.
Gifford, Florence M., asst P. L., Cleveland, O.
Gill, Anna, asst. P. L., St. Louis, Mo.
Glasgow, Ellen, Richmond, Va.
*Gleason, Celia, asst. ln. P. L., Los Angeles, Cal.
Godard, Geo. S., ln. State L., Hartford, Conn.
Godard, Mrs. Geo. S., Hartford, Conn.
Goldberg, Bessie, head catlgr., P. L., Chicago, Ill.
Gooch, Harriet B., instructor Pratt Inst., Brooklyn, N. Y.
Goodchild, F. D., publisher, Toronto, Can.
Goodchild, Mrs. F. D., Toronto, Can.
Goodrich, Nathaniel L., ln. Dartmouth Coll., Hanover, N. H.
Gosnell, R. E., Dom. Mss. Com., Victoria, B. C.
*Goss, Agnes C., ln. State Normal Sch. L., Athens, Ga.
*Gould, Charles H., ln. McGill Univ., Montreal, Can.
Grant, D. M., trus. P. L., Sarnia, Ont.
Grant, Sir James, Ottawa, Can.
Grasty, Katharine G., ln. Eastern High Sch. L., Baltimore, Md.
Greene, Ainslie W., chairman P. L., Ottawa, Can.
Greene, Chas. S., ln. F. L., Oakland, Cal.
Greene, Mrs. Chas. S., Oakland, Cal.
*Greenman, E. D., asst. U. S. Bur. of Educ. L., Washington, D. C.
**Greenman, Mrs. E. M., Albany, N. Y.
**Greenman, E. May, asst. State Educ. Dept., Albany, N. Y.
Griggs, Lillian, asst. Barr Br., P. L., St. Louis, Mo.
Gymer, Rose C., ln. Perkins Br., P. L., Cleveland, O.
Hadley, Chalmers, ln. P. L., Denver, Colo.
Hall, Bessie G., Trav. L. Dept., McGill Univ., Montreal, Can.
*Hall, Drew B., ln. P. L., Somerville, Mass.
**Hall, Mrs. Drew B., Somerville, Mass.
Hall, Ernest S., ln. P. L., Plattsburgh, N. Y.
Hall, Mary E., ln. Girl's High Sch. L., Brooklyn, N. Y.
Hamilton, W. J., chairman P. L., Fort William, Ont.
Handy, D. N., ln. Insurance L. Assn., Boston, Mass.
Hardenberg, Bessie, asst. P. L., Scranton, Pa.
Hardy, Judge A. D., trus. P. L., Brantford, Ont.
Hardy, E. A., sec'y Ontario L. Assn., Toronto, Can.
*Hardy, Mary T., asst. ln. P. L., Grand Rapids, Mich.
Harris, Miss A. M., ln. P. L., Guelph, Ont.
Harrison, Joseph LeRoy, ln. Forbes L., Northampton, Mass.
Hartshorn, W. H., Maine L. Commission, Lewiston, Me.
Hasbrouck, Mary K., ln. P. L., Ogdensburg, N. Y.
Hastings, C. H., chief of card section, L. of Congress, Washington,
D. C.
Hatton, Wm. H., chairman Wis. F. L. Com., New London, Wis.
Hawkins, Eleanor E., head catlgr., P. L., Kansas City, Mo.
Hawkins, Mrs. W. M., Buffalo, N. Y.
Hawley, Mrs. Joseph R., Chicago, Ill.
*Hawley, Mary E., asst. catlgr. John Crerar L., Chicago, Ill.
*Hay, Flora N., ref. ln. P. L., Evanston, Ill.
*Hayes, Ethel M., acting ln., Tufts College L., Tufts College, Mass.
Hazeltine, Mary E., preceptor L. Sch. of the Univ. of Wis., Madison,
Wis.
Henderson, Lucia T., ln. James Prendergast F. L., Jamestown, N. Y.
Henley, Lillian, asst. ref. ln., State L., Indianapolis, Ind.
Hepburn, William M., ln. Purdue Univ., Lafayette, Ind.
*Herrick, Cate E., New Haven, Conn.
Hewins, Caroline M., ln. P. L., Hartford, Conn.
Hewitt, Luther E., ln. Law Assn., Philadelphia, Pa.
Hildreth, Eugene W., Publisher, Boston, Mass.
*Hill, Edith M., 1st asst. St. Clair Br., P. L., Cleveland, O.
Hill, Frank P., ln. P. L., Brooklyn, N. Y.
Hill, Grace, N. Y. State L. Sch., Albany, N. Y. (Ft. Dodge, Ia.)
*Hills, Elizabeth C., ln. Cobleigh L., Lyndonville, Vt.
Hinchey, Comptroller Edward H., Ottawa, Can.
Hirshberg, Herbert S., ref. ln., P. L., Cleveland, O.
Hirshberg, Mrs. Herbert S., Cleveland, O.
Hoagland, Merica, director Indiana L. Sch., Indianapolis, Ind.
Hodge, Cordelia B., F. L. Com., Harrisburg, Pa.
Hodge, Mrs. J. M., Harrisburg, Pa.
Holmden, Kate, asst. P. L., Ottawa, Ont.
Honeyman, J. R. C., ln. P. L., Regina, Sask.
Hookstadt, Carl, asst. L. of Congress, Washington, D. C.
Hooper, Louise M., ln. P. L., Brookline, Mass.
Hopkins, Jessica, ln. P. L., Paducah, Ky.
Hopper, Franklin F., ln. P. L., Tacoma, Wash.
*Horsfall, Elizabeth L., Br. ln., F. L., Newton, Mass.
Hough, Romeyn B., Lowville, N. Y.
Houston, Charlotte S., asst. McGill Univ. L., Montreal, Can.
Hubbard, Anna G., order ln., P. L., Cleveland, O.
Hubbell, Jane P., ln. P. L., Rockford, Ill.
Huestis, A. E., trus. P. L., Toronto, Can.
*Hughes, Howard L., ln. P. L., Trenton, N. J.
Hunter, Adam, ln. P. L., Hamilton, Ont.
Huntting, Henry R., bookseller, Springfield, Mass.
Hutchins, Margaret, ref. asst. Univ. of Ill. L., Urbana, Ill.
*Hutchinson, Helen, ln. Am. Medical Assn., Chicago, Ill.
Hutchinson, Susan A., ln. Brooklyn Inst. Museum L., Brooklyn, N. Y.
Hyde, Sophie, head order dept., Univ. of Minn. L., Minneapolis, Minn.
*Ideson, Julia, ln. Carnegie L., Houston, Tex.
Iles, George, New York City. (Trustee Hackley School L., Tarrytown,
N. Y.)
Imai, K., director, P. L., Osaka, Japan.
Imhoff, Ono Mary, asst. ln. legislative ref. dept., Madison, Wis.
Imrie, William, ln. P. L., Tillsonburg, Ont.
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