Chapter C: H. P

Brighton.

_Lord Bexley--how descended from Cromwell?_--In the notice of the late Lord Bexley in _The Times_, it is stated that he was _maternally_ descended from Oliver Cromwell, the Protector, through the family of Cromwell's son-in-law, Ireton.

Burke, in his _Peerage_, mentions that Henry Vansittart, father of Lord Bexley, was governor of Bengal (circa 1770), and that he married Amelia Morse, daughter of Nicolas Morse, governor of Madras.

It would therefore appear that this said Nicolas Morse was a descendant of General Ireton. I wish to ascertain if this assumption be correct; and, if correct, when and how the families of Morse and Ireton became connected? If any of your correspondents can furnish information on this {186} subject, or acquaint me where I can find any account or pedigree of the Morse family, I shall feel much indebted to them.

PURSUIVANT.

_Earl of Shaftesbury._--I have read with great interest Lord Shaftesbury's letter to Le Clerc, published in No. 67. May I ask your correspondents JANUS DOUSA and Professor des Amories VAN DER HOVEN, whether the Remonstrants' library of Amsterdam contains any papers relating to the first Earl of Shaftesbury, which might have been sent by the third Earl to Le Clerc; and whether any notices or traditions remain in Amsterdam of the first Lord Shaftesbury's residence and death in that city? Any information relative to the first Earl of Shaftesbury will greatly oblige.

CH.

_Family of Peyton._--Admiral Joseph Peyton [Post-Captain, December 2, 1757--Admiral, 1787--ob. 1804] was Admiral's First Captain in the fleet under Darby, at the relief of Gibraltar, 1781. He was son of Commodore Edward Peyton [Post-Captain, April 4, 1740], who is supposed to have gone over from England, and settled in America, and there to have died. I should be very glad of further particulars of these persons. Are my dates correct? How is this branch of the family (lately represented by John Joseph Peyton, Esq., of Wakehurst, who married a daughter of Sir East Clayton East, Bart., and died in 1844, leaving four children minors) connected with the Baronets Peyton, of Iselham, or Dodington? Who was the father of the above Commodore? It may aid the inquiry to mention that this branch is related to the Grenfell family: William Peyton, second son of the above Admiral Joseph, having married a first cousin of Pascoe Grenfell, Esq., M.P. for Great Marlow (who died in 1833).

ACHE.

"_La Rose nait en un Moment._"--I wish to learn the name of the author of the following verses, and where they are to be found. Any of your correspondents who can inform me shall receive my sincere thanks:--

"La Rose nait en un moment,
En un moment elle est fletrie;
Mais ce que pour vous mon coeur sent,
Ne finira qu'avec ma vie."

T. H. K.

Malew, Man.

_John Collard the Logician._--Could any of your correspondents tell me where I could find any account of _John Collard_, who wrote three treatises on Logic:--The first, under the name of _N. Dralloc_ (his name reversed), _Epitome of Logic_, Johnson, St. Paul's Church Yard, 1795; in his own name, _Essentials of Logic_, Johnson, 1796; and in 1799, the _Praxis of Logic_. He is mentioned as _Dralloc_ by Whately and Kirwan; but nobody seems to have known him as _Collard_ but Levi Hedge, the American writer on that subject. I made inquiry, some forty years ago, and was informed that he lived at Birmingham, was a chairmaker by profession, and devoted much of his time to chemistry; that he was known to and esteemed by Dr. Parr; and that he was then dead.

At the close of his preface to his _Praxis_ he says,--

"And let me inform the reader also, that this work was not composed in
the pleasant tranquillity of retirement, but under such untoward
circumstances, that the mind was subject to continual interruptions and
vexatious distraction."

Then he adds,--

"I have but little doubt but this _Praxis_ will, at some future period,
find its way into the schools; and though critics should at present
condemn what they have either no patience or inclination to examine, I
feel myself happy in contemplating, that after I am mouldered to dust,
it may assist our reason in this most essential part."

B. G.

Feb. 20. 1851.

_Traherne's Sheriffs of Glamorgan._--Could any of your readers tell me where I might see a copy of _A List of the Sheriffs of County Glamorgan_, printed (privately?) by Rev. J. M. Traherne? I have searched the libraries of the British Museum, the Athenaeum Club, and the Bodleian at Oxford, in vain.

EDMOND W.

_Haybands in Seals._--I have, in a small collection of Sussex deeds, two which present the following peculiarity: they have the usual slip of parchment and lump of wax pendant from the lower edge, but the wax, instead of bearing an armorial figure, a merchant's mark, or any other of the numerous devices formerly employed in the authentication of deeds instead of one's chirograph, has neatly inserted into it a small wreath composed of two or three stalks of grass (or rather hay) carefully plaited, and forming a circle somewhat less in diameter than a shilling. The deeds, which were executed in the time of Henry the Seventh, relate to the transfer of small landed properties. I have no doubt that this diminutive _hayband_ was the distinctive mark of a grazier or husbandman who did not consider his social status sufficient to warrant the use of a more regular device by way of seal. I have seen a few others connected with the same county, and, if I recollect rightly, of a somewhat earlier date. I shall be glad to ascertain whether this curious practice was in use in other parts of England.