Chapter L: M. M. R

_Traditions of a Remote Period--The Chamberlaine Family_ (Vol. v., p. 77.).--As an instance of the "few links" required to connect the present time with a remote period, I may mention that a grand-aunt of mine who lived far into the year 1843, remembered perfectly her "uncle Chamberlaine,"[4] who was an officer in King James II.'s army, and who fought at Aughrim and at Limerick, thus connecting in her own person the days of the "Monster Meetings" with those of the Revolution of 1688. She remembered many of the old soldier's anecdotes of the stirring times in which he lived, and I now regret having been so careless as not to have taken any Note of them. He was, I believe, the last of his race. I hold his commission, signed by the celebrated Tyrconnell, and also many old deeds, some of which are prior to the reign of Richard II., and of which he was said to be very careful, though on examination they have proved to be of no value, except as antiques.

[Footnote 4: Her grand-uncle.]

As a descendant I should be much gratified if some of your correspondents could give me any information as to the family of Chamberlaine, when they came into Ireland, and who is now the chief representative of that name?

T. O'G.

Dublin.

_St. Bartholomew_ (Vol. v., p. 129.).--The parish church of Wednesbury, co. Staffordshire, is dedicated to that saint; where, in the east window, is a full-length figure: it is however of modern date.

J. N. B.

West Bromwich.

_John Rogers, Protomartyr; Descendants inquired for_ (Vol. v., p. 247.).--The pedigree in my private collection ends thus:

"[5]Rev. John Rogers of Beminster, Dorsetshire, from 1796 to 1810,
when he removed to Tisbury, Wiltshire, where he died in 1815, aged
57, leaving two daughters, viz.

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2 | | 1
Sarah = George d'r. wife of
widow Brough. George
d'd Long of
7 July, Clapham
1846, Park
æt. 39. Academy,
1846."

[Footnote 5: Seventh in direct lineal male descent from the
protomartyr.]

E. D.

_English Translation of the Canons_ (Vol. v., p. 246.).--The Queries of M. on this subject have arisen out of an error, which I fancy must be his own. After quoting the clause of the 36th Canon, _quodque eodem taliter uti liceat_, he says:

"The English translation, to which subscription is now made, has
the following rendering of the second clause: 'And that the same
may be lawfully used.' The word 'taliter' seems to be not rendered
at all."

Of course I cannot tell on what authority he says this; but he is certainly wrong: for in the Oxford edition (1844) of the _Homilies and Canons_ this clause stands thus: "and that it may lawfully _so_ be used." And so it is printed in Hodgson's _Instructions_, p. 8., and in the Instructions to be observed by Candidates for Holy Orders in the Diocese of London: and I myself not long ago subscribed to it in this form. There is then no difference here at all; the Latin being rendered by the English, not only fully, but literally. I will only add, that the grammatical meaning of _taliter_, or _so_, appears to me in this place to be plain enough, without requiring a "theological controversy" to determine it.

F. A.

_"Arborei foetus alibi," &c._ (Vol. v., pp. 58. 189.).--I am afraid I did not make myself intelligible in my former communication. Certainly W. A. C. does not understand me. The question is, are we justified in translating _alibi atque_ "otherwhere than," in like manner as we translate _aliter atque_ "otherwise than?" W. A. C. takes for granted that the line in question refers to only one district. But that is the very point in doubt. The "head master's" translation makes it refer to two.

W. S.

_Horn-blowing_ (Vol. v., p. 148.).--In reference to this practice, I may state that a similar custom prevails here (Gainsborough, Lincolnshire), but on the 29th May, or "Royal Oak Day." For some days previously the boys collect all the birds' eggs they can find or purchase, and early in the morning of the 29th, they may be seen returning from the woods in crowds, with an ample supply of oak. They next procure a large quantity of flowers, with which they construct a garland in the form of a crown, the apples of the oak being all gilded, surrounded by flowers and festoons of birds' eggs. The garland is then suspended across the street, and every little urchin being provided with a horn, some the natural horn of the cow, others of tin, similar to those formerly used by the guard of the mail coaches, they keep up throughout the day a most terrible blowing of horns; the doleful noise being ill in accordance with the festivity and rejoicing which the garlands are presumed to indicate. I have been unable to learn the origin or import of this singular custom.

T. DYSON.

Gainsborough.

"_God's Love_" (Vol. v., p. 272.).--If T. S. will refer to Wood's _Athenæ Oxon._, vol. iii. col. 698. edit. 4to., he will find all account of the author of _God's Love_. Wood records an edition of 1659. In the _Bibliotheca Anglo-Poetica_, No. 594., was one dated 1679; but I have now before me the _first_, which neither Wood nor his editor appear to have heard of. The title:

"God's Love and Man's Vnworthiness: whereunto is annexed a
Discourse between the Soul and Satan. With several Divine
Ejaculations. Written by John Quarles. London: Printed for John
Stafford, and are to be sold at his house in S. Bride's
Church-yard; and by Humphrey Moseley, at the Prince's Armes, in
St. Paul's Church-yard; and John Holder, at the Blue Anchor, in
the New Exchange. 1651."

Collation: the minde of the frontispiece: 8 lines verse. The frontispiece, or engraved title: _God's Loue, Man's Vnworthiness_, by Io. Qu. "Lord, what is man," &c. _Ps._ viii. 4. An engraved portrait of the author, kneeling and saying, "O giue salvation vnto Israell out of Sion!" (this unknown to Granger or Bromley: the latter records _three_ other portraits of the author.) Then the title, as given before. The dedication: "To my much honoured and esteemed Friend, Edward Benlowes, Esq." To the Reader. To my Muse: "Tel me, presumptuous Muse, how dar'st thou treat." _God's Love_, &c., pp. 1. to 66. A Dialogue, &c., pp. 67. to 108. Pp. 109, 110. wanting in my copy, but probably blank, as the catch-word "Divine" agrees with "Divine Ejaculations," which commence on p. 111. and end at p. 160., thus concluding the volume.

P. B.

_Plague Stones_ (Vol. v., p. 226.).--One of these stones is (I believe) still standing at Bury Saint Edmunds. In a paper read to the Bury and West Suffolk Arch. Inst. (vide vol. i. p. 42. of the _Society's Proceedings_) Mr. S. Tymms says:

"The small-pox has been a frequent visitor of Bury in its most
terrible forms. In 1677, says Gillingwater (_Hist. Bury_, 226.),
it was so prevalent that the people resorting to the market by the
Rislygate Road, were accustomed to dip their money in water
(tradition says vinegar) which had been placed in _the cavity of
the ruined base of the boundary cross_ situate at the bottom of
Chalk Lane, with the view of preventing any infection being
conveyed to the neighbouring towns and villages."

My attention has been frequently called to a stone of similar description standing in the parish of Stuston in this county, by the side of the Ipswich and Norwich turnpike; it is called in Kirby's _Suffolk Traveller_, 1st ed. pp. 52-3., a "Stuston Stone" and "The White Stone," and is nearly equidistant from Diss and Eye, between two and three miles.

J. B. COLMAN.

_Melody of the Dying Swan_ (Vol. ii., p. 476., footnote; Vol. v., p. 187.).--

"Sed neque Cygni canunt," says Leland, in his _Cygnea Cantio_,
"nisi flante zephyro vento geniali quidem illo, si quicquam Æliani
judicio tribuendum."

In the work itself, which is a poetical panegyric on King Henry VIII., the following lines occur:

"Strepitum dedit sonorum
Cygnorum niveus chorus canentûm,
Concussis alacri vigore pennis.
Applausus placuit mihi canorus."

The last line, however, seems only to apply to the applauding sound of the wings, and not to intimate that any music was produced by them.