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My Lord Traquair said—I submitt to the judgement of this honourable company, if this be not rather an accusation nor a protestation, and that in a high streame, challenging me for intruding myselfe in that bussines after so unjust a way; but neither this assertion nor myne can take away ane judiciall act. I hope both our partes shall be cleared be the Proces quhich must have faith, except ye will offer to improve the writt, and prove the Clerk to be false.

The Moderatour said—It is possible he may give some information for himselfe, which will not contradict but may subsist with the proces.

Then the proces was given to the Clerk and read.

Traquair said—I doe not say but my judgement may differ from Mr Ellots or any other mans; but if thare hes been any illegall way usit by me, I am readie to answer according to law and reason; but if his judgement doeth not goe alongst with me, I hope this will be no reason to condemn myne for it; and when this honourable meeting hes considered this proces, if they be not satisfied, I will submitt myselfe to their judgement.

Moderatour said—That Mr Ellot had nothing to say against the proces; quherupon the Thesaurer tooke Instruments, that Mr Ellot acquiesced to the trueth of the proces.

My Lord Yester requyred that these who were present might be asked concerning that quhilk Mr Robert had alleadged; for he sayes nothing contrare to the proces, but something more nor is in the proces. And he hath given in a protestation only, and not ane accusation; and when I posed him straitlie, what moved him to give in the protestation, he tooke God to witnesse that he did it out of conscience and love to the good of the Cause.

Traquair said—My Lord, let me speake as good friends and Christian subjects ane to another.

Yester answered—I desire earnestlie it may be so; but it may be I cannot speake so pleasantlie to your Lordship as I would, be reason of this throng about.

Traquair said—I take it to be a clame and accusation against the formalitie of the election; and what is in the proces, I remitt it to the judgement of the Assembly, and if any thing be called in question which the proces cannot cleare, I shall justifie ane uther way.

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Sess. 7. 29 Novʳ 1638.

After in calling upon the name of God,

The Moderatour said—We left at the testimonie which was given by skilled men who wer appoynted for trying of the Kirk Registers, and their testimonie was read in your hearing; and we requested all to bring in this day, their objections and scruples concerning these registers: now we crave that ane who pleases would object; for if no man object, an act or record will be insert in the bookes of the Assembly, declairing that these bookes are authentick.

The Commissioner said—No man here shall have greater joy nor I, to heare the registers of the Kirk perfyte, and no man shall contrubut more to it then I, being a matter of so great importance or weight; for upon the acts set doune in these bookes very much depends. But becaus ye have heard [objections] be the Lords of Clergie made, and their adherents, against the legallitie of the proceedings of this Assembly, I am tyed yet to say somewhat; and I am sorrie that I must protest against that in word which my heart desires not. Sore greeved I have reason to be to protest against so good a work as is the restoreing to the Kirk of her records; yet considering many causes which now I will not expresse, I am forced to protest against it: ffor albeit these bookes may be found authentick be the consent of this Assembly, yet may I doe nothing which may import either his Majesties assent to it or myne; and therefore heir I make protestation against.

The Moderatour said—We only crave the Assemblys approbation; and if the pretendit Bishops or any uther will take upon them to improve these bookes, or any parte of them, they shall be heard. It is pittiful there should be such a rent in our Church, so fearful, and that any point of the cause of it shall be imputed to authoritie, if we consider what a sweete unitie was ance in this Kirk. To clear this unitie, I will read a testimonie out of the preface of the booke called “The Harmony of the Confession of the Reformed Kirkes.” After the reading of it in Latine, he exponed it, shawing the rare priviledges of the Kirk of Scotland beyond other Kirkes; that for the space of 54 yeares it remained in puritie of doctrine and discipline, without any errour or schisme, and gave a reason of it; becaus the Kirk of Scotland was reformed in doctrine and discipline according to the word of God: so it is clear, the Kirk ance had unitie, and it is clear also by what meanes and Instruments schisme hes come in.

The Commissioner said—I pray God the Kirk may enjoy this puritie 40,000 yeares more, if the world should endure so long; yet I must protest, in more pathetic words, against the authoritie of these bookes (for I did it in modestie before); albeit, I would give my estate and venture my life in furthering the Church to be restoired to her registers; but becaus of the manyfold exceptions I have against the way of the meeting of this Assembly, and against sundrie persons which are Members of it, I protest heir, that neither the Kings Majestie nor the bishops be wronged be any act in these bookes, and that they are not obleist be the acts of any booke, which is not subscryved be the Clerk of Aberdein.

My Lord Rothes said—Your Grace promised to propone some scruples against these bookes, wherin your Grace was not yet satisfied, which we desyre to heare; for they are found, of all who have tryed them, comparatively authentick, and utherwayes also.

Moderatour said—We are sure if his Grace had perused these bookes, he would approve them also.

The Roll being called be the Clerk, the Moderatour asked if the brethren did approve the registers? Who answered that they did; and desyres that reasons of the approbation might also be insert in the bookes of the Assembly, and that there was not any protestation made be his Majesties Commissioner. They desyred also that the Bishop of Sᵗ Andrews might be summonded for the production of these bookes which are wanting.

The Moderatour said—Ye heard of a declinatour given in be the pretendit Bishops and Archbishops, containing many divers crymes and challenges agᵗ the Members of this Assembly; therefore it is desyred that some paper may be read containing some answers to many pointes of their declinatour, and not a full answer, such as shall be given in hereafter; only this shall serve to give some answer, &c.: which two papers being read be the Clerk,

The Commissioner said—I did not expect an answer to the Bishops declinatour and protestations, seeing the declinatour was only presented to me, wherefore ane answer from the Assembly was needless.

The Moderatour answered—The inscription of the Declinatour sayth, “A Declinatour to be red before the Assembly,” and therefore ane answer must be given be the Assembly.

Rothes said—There is no more pertinent matter to be handlit in the Assembly then that declinatour, which in it hath so many criminations against the Members of it, and alleadges wronges in the Constitutions of it.

Mr Andrew Ramsay said—Your Grace hes als good reason to answer and object against the bishops declinatour as any in this house; becaus in it they declyned the Kings Grace and his Commissioner, be thrie testimonies cited be them, and will not suffer him or any other King or Emperour to hold voice in Assembly, saying, “Nemo preter Episcopos debet se ecclesiasticis protractibus immiscere.”

The Commissioner said—I thinke they have no intention to declyne the Kings Majestie as judge, seeing sundrie pairtes of their paper declaires their reverend subscription to his Majestie. But I will not wrong these reverend Lords be my disputing of their cause, who am so insufficient for it; but if I thought they intendit any prejudice against my Master and soveragne, I would protest als soone agᵗ them as any.

Then the Clerk was desyred to read some answers made to the Prelats and some Ministers objections in their declinatour and protestations against ruleing elders had any voice in the sentence of excommunication.

The Moderatour answered this—The Presbitrie hes it, and they as members of the Presbitrie. Further, he said, these papers being unperfyte, and not having fully exped all that is to be answered to be the bishops declinatour and protestation agᵗ Elders, there is the more to be expected; and in the meanetyme we are obleist to God that the lyke declinatour and objections wer given in be the remonstrances against the Synod of Dort; so that we neid no uther answer to the bishops objections then these the Synod of Dort made to these remonstrances.

Then the Moderatour red the answer out of the booke of the Synod of Dort, and said, this is _Judicium Theologorum magne Britanniæ_.

The Commissioner answered—Heir is a man by me, who desires to make answer of that which ye have red from the Synod of Dort.

Balcanquell asked libertie to speake, seeing he was not a Member of the Assembly; pleading so farre, of the caice of the remonstrances and our bishops was different in two maine respects—therefore the same answer could not serve the bishops declinatour, which was most valide agᵗ the remonstrances:—first, becaus the matter of the remonstrances accusations was anent points fundamentall, such as election upon foirseene faith,—universalitie of Christs death, and co-operation of Gods Grace with our will—resistabilitie of Grace,—the finall apostacie of the saintes: in which pointes, and uthers of that nature, are all bound, under the paine of damnation, to betake them to the one syde; and therefore the remonstrances could not justlie declyne the Church of the Low Countries in questions of that nature, though they had before that Synod, cleared themselves to the contrarie; for if any such exceptions are of force to declyne a Nationall Assembly, of necessitie they behoved to be referred to the judgement of strangers; but the questiones in the Church of Scotland were not anent fundamental poynts of religion, which, by our Confession, are declaired to be eternal and unchangeable, but anent matters of policie and order, which the twenty first article of our Confession shawes to be alterable. Secondly, he excepted that the Kirke of the Low Countries had not before that Synod, bund themselves by oath and subscriptioun, against the doctrine of the remonstrances, as we in the Kirke of Scotland had done against the bishops, and the causes depending betwixt us and them.

The Moderatour said that it was a questione of great difficultie, to decerne what pointes are fundamentall and what not; and, if this whole Assembly were sett to it, it would take them to the morrow at this tyme. Secondly, That Synod of Dort did not pronounce these pointes controverted betwixt them and the remonstrances to be hereticall, but only to be erroneous. Thirdly, Doctor Feild, and uthers, distinguishes errours in two fundamentall poynts about the foundations of these that are more remote, and _preter fundamenta_. In the first sort, meir ignorance was damnable, but, in the third, obstinacie, as Doctor Feild instances Pauls cloake, what became of it, or whether Onesimus was Pauls Servand now. Now the Moderatour assumed that Dr Balcanquell would not affirme that sinne ignorance of these pointes of Arminianisme was of the selfe damnable. Fourthlie, Our Church holds, that all the maine poyntes of her discipline ordour, were warrantable by the word of God; and that, be God’s grace, we are able to prove it to be so; for the second article of our Confession, declareing Ceremonies to be alterable, it is to be exponed only of the circumstances of the tyme and place.

Mr David Dalgleish addit two answers farder:—1, Antient Counsell had proceedit, and finds themselfes competent judges, even when matters of inferior degree are questioned, as in the questions of Novatus and Danatus. 2, That the Bishops wer indytit for poyntes of heresie, such as the Doctor acknowledged to be fundamentall poynts—to witt, poynts of Poperie and Arminianisme.

Then the Moderatour said—Seeing, in Gods providence, this Contestation is tymeouslie fallen in, it is fitt that this Assembly should voice, whether they find themselves competent judges to the pretendit Bishops, notwithstanding of the Declinatour and Protestation?

The Commissioner said—I find in myselfe a great contrarietie—causes of joy, but greater causes of grieff; causes of joy, that I am able, before God and all that heares me, to make good all the whole offeris his Majestie hes made to this Kingdome, be severall proclamations and declarations, and more also. But I have sorrow that I cannot goe on so as to bring matters in hand to such ane peaceable end as I would; therefore, before ye proceid further, I will renew all my protestations, made in name of my Master, and Lords of Clergie, here. I will present unto yow his Majesties gracious pleasure, signed with my owne hand by his warrand.

Then the Clerk tooke and red it, and it containes a discharging of the Service Booke, Booke of Cannons, High Commission; ordaines the 5 articles of Perth to be no more urged, and gives libertie to the present Assembly to represent their judgment of these articles to the next ensueing Parliament; and that no oath be taken of ministers but that which is insert in the Act of Parliament. It promises Generall Assemblies to be indicted als oft as shall be found expedient. It showes that his Majestie is content that the bishops be censured be the Generall Assembly, and that he intends no change of Religion. It hath a command to subscryve the Covenant and band made 1580 and repeited 1589. After the reading of it,

The Commissioner said—Now, I hope all these to all aspersions, anent change of religion, are declared to be unjust; so, if any change of religion had bein intendit, this Assembly had never been granted, nor yet these offers made unto yow. I am entrusted with a full commission for the preservation of religion, punishing of vyce, and to consider of all the just exceptions against the Bishops and Episcopacie, and have power to rectifie all the abuses of that office, so farr as that sort of government may still remaine in the Kirk, as government not contrare to the word of God; and anent the practice of this and uther churches, I have power to limite it so, that it shall not be able to wrong the church; and, if they wrong it, they shall be punished: yet, my commission is more ample than I will expresse. But, seeing I have not found that respect dew to ane Commissioner, and know what prejudicat opinion these here hes of me present, and, when I consider what directions were sent from the Tables of Conveiners of Meetings at Edinburgh to presbitries, be noblemen, gentlemen, ministers, and uthers, it gives me just occasion to declair, that I can give no consent to any thing that is heir done; and to cleare what I have said, I present heir two uther papers, ane sent from the Table at Edinburgh to presbitries, the uther from persons to their friends, and I desyre they may be red. I cannot designe the men who sent these papers; but sure I am these papers are sent, dispersed through the kingdome, and that mens proceedings are according to the directions of these papers; for there is not a Commissioner chosen but Covenanters, or, if any uther be, there is a protestation against him, or else they are chosen becaus none other could be found. I find, also, ane absolut resolution to mentaine the lawfulnes of the election of ley Elders, to voit here, and the election of ministers by ley Elders, and everie thing in this Assembly going on contrare to the practice of all former tymes and positive lawes of this kingdome: Therefore, I can acknowledge nothing to be heir done by the voit of such men. In the meane tyme, I desyre that this declaration of the Kings will, may be insert in the Bookes of the Assembly, as ane testimonie of his Majesties sinceritie in religion, and that he hath no intention of any change in Religion, and is readie to perform all that is here promised, and what further may conduce for the peace of the land, and especiallie, that Assemblies shall be indicted als oft as the affares of the Church shall requyre.

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_The Moderatour his Speach to the Commissioner his Grace._

It weell beseemeth us, his Majesties Subjects, conveened in this honorable Assembly, with all thankfullnes, to receave so ample a testimonie of his Majesties goodnes, and not to disesteeme of the smallest crumbes of comfort that falles unto us of his Majesties liberalitie. With our hearts doe we acknowledge before God, and with our mouth do we desyre to testifie to the world, how farr we think ourselves obleist to our dread Soveraigne; wishing that the secrete thoughts of our hearts, and the way wherein we have walked this tyme past, wer made manifest. It hath bein the glorie of the reformed Churches, and we accompt it our glorie after a speciall maner, to give unto Kings and Christian Magistrats, what belongs unto their places; and as we know the fifth command of the law to be a precept of the second table, so doe we acknowledge it to be the first of that kynd; and that nixt to pietie towards God, we are obleist unto loyaltie and obedience to our King. There is nothing due unto Kings and Princes, in matters ecclesiasticall, which, I trust, by this Assembly, shall be denyed unto our King: ffor, beside auctoritie and power in matters civill, to a Christian King belongeth, _first_, inspection over the affaires of the Kirk, _et debet invigilare_ not only _super ecclesiasticis sed super ecclesiastica:_ He watcheth not only over Kirkmen, but over Kirk matters. _Secondly_, The vindication of Religion doth also belong unto the King, for whom it is most propper, be his Majestie, to vindicat Religion from contempt and all abuses, he being keiper also of the first table of the law. _Thirdlie_, The functions, also, are in his Majesties hand, to confirme, be his royall auctoritie, the Constitutions of the Kirke, and to give them the strenth of a law. _Fourth_, His Majestie also hath the power of Correction: he both may and aught compell Kirkemen in the performance of their dueties which God requires of them. _Fifthly_, The Correction, also, must be from the Prince, who hath power from God to coerce and restraine them to his terrour and auctoritie, from what beseemeth not their places and callings. _Sixth_, The Christian Magistrat, also, hath power to convocat Assemblies, when they find that the urgent affaires of the Kirk doe call for them: and in Assemblies when [they] are conveened, his power is great, and his power aught to be heard—first, as he is a Christian, having the judgment of discretion in all matters debateable and contraverted; next, as he is King or Magistrat, he must have the judgment of his eminent place and high vocation, to discerne what concernes the Spirituall weill and Salvation of his Subjects: and, third, as a Magistrat singularlie gifted with more then ordinarlie, gifts of knowledge and auctoritie; and we heartilie acknowledge that your Grace, as his Majesties high Commissioner, and representing his Majesties Royall persone, hes a cheefe place in this reverend and honorable Assemblie—first, as a good Christian; next, as ye are his Majesties great Commissioner, and third, as ane endued with singular graces, and after a speciall manner, fittest for this employment. Far be it from us to deny any thing that is done to these who are in supreme auctoritie, or to such as are subordinat unto them and delegat be them. When Alexʳ the Great came to Jerusalem, he desyred that [an] Image might be sett up in the temple, which the Jewis modestlie refuised as inconsistent with the law, which was the law of God, but libertie offered in their power, and more honourable for the King, that they would begin the reckonings of the tymes from his coming to Jerusalem, and would call all the first borne sons be his name. What is Cæsars or what is ours, let it be given to Cæsar, but [let] the God by whom Kings reigne, have his owne place and prerogative—be whose grace our King reigneth and we pray may long and prosperouslie reigne over us.

The Commissioner said—Sir, ye have spoken as a good Christian and duetifull subject.

The Moderatour said—Indeed we take this to be a free assembly indicted be his Majesty, and we trust that all thinges in it shall be so moderat, that the word of God and reason shall seeme to proceed in everie thing, and that we shall not goe forward ane steppe, but as a clear light shall be holden out before us; and we trust to make it evident to all men that we cannot not darre not walke in ane uther way, and we are hopefull, that such a righteous King as ours is, needs nothing but to have a clear trueth pointed out before him, and when he sies it, he shall fall in love with it.

The Commissioner said—I am hopefull that ye will proceed so as ye are obledged by your oath of alleadgence, and I trust that all his commands shall be found to agrie with Gods commands.

The Moderatour said—It is our heartie wishe it be so; and we rander to his Majestie heartie thankes for this Assembly, and we trust that, be Gods assistance, in nothing shall we pas the bounds of a free Assembly.

My Lord Lowdoun eikit and said—As your Grace hath declaired his Majesties graceous pleasure, to the contentment of all the hearers, in condiscending to many points of the petitions of his subjects, for the which we heir rander, as the Moderatour hath said, heartie thankes; and we humblie desyre ane copy of the Prelats paper, conteining so many criminations against us, opposing this lawfull constitut Assembly, that we may consider it and censure it, and thereafter the giving of it, according to the word of God and Constitution of this Kirke, may cleare ourselves of all the imputations layd to our charge.

The Commissioner said—It hath a claus in it, as I remember, bearing registration; therefore ye may get it.

My Lord Lowdoun said—But we crave that we may have ane copie of it, with your Graces allowance, out of the Clerks hands.

The Commissioner said—I will not hinder yow to cleare yourself of any imputation layd to your charge; but I will not suffer yow to goe on in censureing the prelats as I wishe I might.

My Lord Lowdoun said—We trust that all our proceedings against them shall be found frie of partialitie.

The Moderatour said—As before I asked if the bookes and Acts were the rule whereby their faults should be censured, Sir, now I ask if this Assembly finds themselves competent judges to the Prelats?

The Commissioner answered—If they proceed in the censure of their persones and offices, I must remove myselfe.

The Moderatour said—A thousand tymes I wishe the contrare; and I intreat your Grace to heare the voites of this Assembly in this matter, seeing it belongs to the Assembly to be judge of their Constitutions.

The Commissioner said—I must not wrong myselfe, and much more the great bussinesse I am entrusted with, if I should argue the question with such a learned man as yow are; but I thinke it strange, notwithstanding the exceptions, documents, protestations, and declinatours usit be me in name of my Master and Lords of the Clergie, that they can take this matter to the consideration of the Assembly. Surely it is not the Bishops but the King ye have adoe with?

The Moderatour said—I must yet ask if this Assembly finds themselves competent Judges?

The Commissioner said—I wish that question mar be deferred this tyme.

The Moderatour said—It is only the fitt tyme to propone this, after the reading of the declinatour; and I am only a servand to this Assembly, and can doe nothing at myne owne hand.

The Commissioner said—I can tax your carriage in nothing you have done, as a wise and discreit Gentleman; but I see now that this Assembly hes determined to go on for all that can be said; therefore I may no longer keepe silence, but oppose myselfe unto it.

Rothes said—It seemes that the Commissioners Grace hath exceptiounes against this Assembly—for two reasons—first, becaus too many ruleing Elders have voice in it; to which I answer, there are no more nor are warrandit be the word of God, practice of uther Kirkes, and positive law of this Kirke; and if that any yet thinke that Elders should not have voice in this Assembly, alse free as any in former tymes, let them cleare it be good reason, for we are yet readie to dispute the matter. The uther exceptioun his Grace seemes to have against this Assembly is, that he thinkes partialitie will be used heir, and that matters are determined by us before hand, as his Grace hath laboured to cleare be his two papers that are red, which are said to come from the Tables at Edinburgh; but we deny these papers to be ours; and heir I produce the two verie true papers which came from us, which have no thing in them so absurd as is said to be.

The Commissioner said—I excepted not agᵗ your privat, but against your publict papers.

Rothes answered—There came no papers from ws but these two be me produced; and if any uthers there be, they are only the advice of privat men to their privat friends; and if any thing be worth the challenging in these papers, let the author of them answer for it. And now we crave and humblie entreat your Grace if there be any exceptiounes against our former proceedings, that they be declared; for we are verie hopefull to justifie all we have done to the full, and that we shall be able to defend all as warrantable: for we never intendit but to proceed according to the word of God and lawes of this Church and Kingdome.

The Commissioner said—Your refuiseing to give voit in this Assembly to the Kings Assessours, is enough to prove the contrare, if there were no more.

Rothes answered—Their voits is contrare to the Constitutions and liberties of this Kirke, and therefore our refuiseing must not be taken in evil pairt.

The Commissioner said—That the Kings Majestie hath bruiked the priviledge of having assessours to voit in Assembly these 50 yeares past, and why not in this Assembly, seeing our King hes showen such myldnes and benignes, and hath not uttered any angrie word since I came to this Kingdome?

Rothes replyed—As we acknowledge that he hath beene a good and graceous King, so whatsomever is competent to be done to such a King, shall be done by us, to witt, at his willing, obedience heartilie prayes and wishes that he may lang and prosperouslie reigne over us; and if we doe not so, let not Gods blessing be upon us. But we must so proceed as this free Assembly be not prejudged, nor the liberties of this Kirk impaired, seeing we must make answer to ane higher judge. If the privilege craved were in matters that were in our power, we would soone have yealded; but seeing they are not, I thinke we should be excused.

The Commissioner said—Seeing ye will not give to our King what was given be our predecessours, I cannot thinke ye will have that obedience ye speake of.

Rothes answered—Obey we will, in everie thing dew to his Majestie, be the word of God and lawes of this Kirk, and shall be readie to thrust out of doores all such as will be utherwayes. But if that which is now craved was given in former tymes, not by a right law but by a corrupt practice, and matters were caried utherwayes in his Majesties absence then they should when many moe corruptions, as now to be redressed, why not that amongst the rest?

The Commissioner said—It is enough for us to prove that he had Assessours.

My Lord Rothes said—Let your Grace say that he had be right, and we shall agrie to it.

Moderatour said—Thinkes your Grace of these worthie and Noble Lords that sitt by yow, that this is refuised out of any disobedience to our King, or disrespect to these Nobles, but from a respect to God and his Kirke, and these Commissions may verie weill agrie?

The Commissioner said—No man may thinke but our graceous King will mentaine the liberties of his Kirk in all heartie and sincere wayes as any of his predecessours, and thinke he nowayes intends to incrotche vpon the liberties of the Kirk at this tyme, but only to defend it from the oppression of over-ruleing Elders; and yet I tax no man—for I have no charge to that end; and if I had, I thinke I have a heart to execute my Masters Command as ane other Man. But our King, intending only the maintenance of the puritie of religion in a quyet maner; and, therefore, I desyre that nothing be put in practice in this Assembly by ley Elders, which hath beene so long out of practice. If these Elders should have beene pleased that this Assembly should have beene constitut, after the late ordinar maner, and than have comed in and claimed their right to sitt and voit here in a fair way, I thinke it would have beene granted; for what could conduce more to further a Kings end, and strengthen his auctoritie in ane Assembly, than that a number of wyse and learned laymen should have voit in it? But becaus he intendeth only the preservation of the puritie of religion, he cannot consent that ane Assembly should consist of such a great number of ignorant men, wanting abilitie to judge matters to be handlit heir, but desyred only that this Assembly may consist of the Churches owne pure Members, that so she may receave no prejudice heir.

Lowdoun said—I perceave the maine objection against the voiting of the Ruleing Elders is yet urged, and their ignorance to judge in matters that are to be handlit heir; therefore I offer heir to dispute, that the office of a Ruleing Elder is warranted by the word of God, practise of uther Kirkes, and lawes and practise of our owne Kirk, and referris the decision of the question to the Assembly as the only competent Judge. The question is alreadie dispute heir be Doctor Balcanquell, and it is grantit from the testimony of the Synod of Dort, that Elders have voit in matters of faith, and matters of discipline and order; and where it is objected that these Elders at the Synod of Dort were learned and judicious men, able to dispute and treate of the greatest matters in the Latine tongue, and these heir assembled are not such for the greater pairt, I answer, it is not alwayes men of the greater place and learning who bring foorth clearest light in matters that concerne religion. There are heir a number of Gentlemen and burgesses of the lowest sort, trained up at schooles and colledges, taught all the grounds of religion, and able to decerne trueth when it is pointed forth; therefore—seeing be the lawes and practice of this Kirke, such hath beene in use to voit before, and we have offered to dispute the matter yet more—referring the decision of the question to this Assembly, we hope there is enough said for clearing of our power.

The Commissioner said—It is hard for me to make answer for everie speach of such a number of learned and understanding men. But, as I remember, Doctor Balcanquell said not that the Elders of the Synod of Dort had voice in matters of faith.

My Lord Lowdoun answered—It is true the Doctor made a distinctione of more and les fundamental poyntes of faith. But that Synod did determine what was more fundamentall and what was less fundamentall poyntes of faith; and it is clearlie proven that the Elders had voit in all matters proponed their.

The Moderatour said to Doctor Balcanquell—Let the question be yet stated and agitat; for the question now in hand is not, whether the office of Ruleing Elders be warranted by the word of God—which I thinke none will deny—but the question is, whether the Elders, according to the Acts of Assembly and Customes of this Kirk, hes place to voice heir? And if ye, or any, will be pleased to conferre or dispute the question, we are ready for it. The Convocation House of England would not be content that any should say, “Your Church is not weill constitut;” far les can we heare it said to us; therefore we would be glad to heare what ye have to say in this question; and if the Commissioners Grace would stay, we trust he shall heare this and many uther questiones discussed.

My Lord Rothes said—The Commissioner seemes to take speciall notice of that expression which was in the Letters from Edinburgh, called the Tables; as if the Letters from these Tables did import a judicatorie; therefore I desyre to cleare it. When great numbers were conveined in Edinburgh from the sense of evills lying in this Kirk, and wer joyning together in putting up a supplication to the Lords of Counsell, my Lord Thesaurer taxed us for such numerous Convocations, quhilk as the Convocation was out of love to Religion, which seemed to be in hazard, and therefore everie man having onie particular interest, conveened: we answered, that such a Convocation behoved either to be, or Commissioners in their name; and your Grace desyred that when ye came to Edinburgh, that the toune might be emptied of such multitudes; and your Grace ordained that the schires should convene be their Commissioners: therefore, when the Commissioners from schyres and presbitries mett, and sett downe, what absurditie is in it, to call them so mett, “a Table,” seeing it is not called a Counsell Table, or a Judiciall Table, such as the Prelats called their Tables? If we called it a Judiciall Table, let us be hanged for it. A taylors table, sitting with his men sewing about it—so called a Table—or a company eating at such a mans table, there is no absurditie in the speache; and we did not call ourselves “The Tables,” but uthers gave it that name.

The Commissioner said—I except not much against the name of Table; neither have I spoken any thing in passion against it, albeit I be naturallie passionat; yet I thank God there hes not much passion escaped me heir. I have no caus of passion to heare these Meetings called a Table; for there is passion enough at my heart, that I find so much power at these Tables, and so little at the Counsell Table—for it is weill knowen, your positive Counsells are more regarded nor the Kings Counsell Table. But I forebeare to speake more. I could bring foorth many moe just causes and exceptions against your proceedings, but I know they will be to no end; for I feare your prejudged opinion of all that I can say.

My Lord Rothes desyred that his Grace would bring foorth any one instance wherein any had failed at that Table.

The commissioner said—Ye know that all the ordour from them hes been readilie obeyed, but little or nothing from the Counsell Table.

My Lord Rothes said—I know neither direction nor obedience given in any thing from that Table, but according to the word of God, and lawes of this Kirk and Kingdome.

The Commissioner said—I came not heir to recriminat, and therefore I pas it.

My Lord Rothes said—Please your Grace to heare the true directions from that Table; for, in trueth, I never heard of these given in be your Grace; and, when ours are read, we trust we shall be found to surrogat no auctoritie to ourselves.

The Moderatour said—If any good success come from these directions, it is to be imputed to God, and not to their auctoritie.

My Lord Lowdoun said—I would ask at your Grace, what are these directions from the Counsell Table, which have not gotten readie obedience from us? For I know none but such as could not be obeyed for conscience sake, and that cannot be compted disobedience.

The Commissioner said—I know that all my Masters Commands are justifiable, and such as good Christians should obey; and I thanke God for his righteous and clement heart.

My Lord Lowdoun said—We think that your Graces labours hes still turned matters to the better, and we pray it may be so still, till thir matters be at ane end.

The Moderatour said—I would ask the voits of the Tables, whether you thinke yourselfes a Nationall Assembly or not?

The Commissioner said—If I could patientlie continow, I should tell my opinion; but seeing now my loyaltie and faithfull discharge of my Commission is in hand, I must remove my persone; for my estate is not so deare to me as my reputation and fidelitie to my Master.

The Moderatour said—We only crave the renewing of your Graces former patience.

The Commissioner said—I cannot assist nor consent to any thing that is done heir, except ye adhere to that which ye have heard red, in the sealed paper; and still I protest that nothing done here may inferre his Majesties consent or myne, or yet oblidge any of his good subjects.

Rothes said—After many supplications were presented to his Grace, your Grace was imployed for satteling of matters, and we expected a happie conclusion when your Grace promised to deale for a free Assemblie; and, if any just exceptiones were against the Prelats persone or discharge of their office, it should be referred to the Assembly: And now the free Assembly is granted, and is fullie constitut. If your Grace, who is a cheafe Member of it, be protestation and deserting of it, labours to make this Assembly most unfree, it is more nor we expected. If your Grace hath any just exceptioun against our former proceedings, or doth feare that we shall not proceed in such a just maner as becomes us, we are readie to cleare our selves. In both we shall repell, or give satisfaction, for bygones, or for tyme to come—the law of God, and Constitution of this Kirke, shall be ane rule, as it hath beene hitherto.

The Commissioner said—I attest God, I have laboured as a good Christian, loyall subject, and kynd countryman, for the good of this Kirke, laying aside all privat considerations, as I shall answer to God; and, at my last going to Court, I said to some of my particular friends, that I should doe what in me lay for procureing a free Generall Assembly; and now a most free Generall Assembly hath beene procured and indicted: but things in it are so carried that it is like to be a most unfree Generall Assembly. For the reasons I have alreadie expressed, glad would I be to have it utherwayes, as there is nothing which, can be proponed, keeping my self within the bounds of my Commission and fidelitie to my Master, but I shall doe it; for I desyre to [serve] God, my King, and my Countrie. But a weightie burden is layd on the back of a sillie young man overcharged with a toilsome bussinesse, and unable to bring it to such ane end as I would.

Rothes said—And the present evils, and further inconvenients like to come by your Grace rysing, must be ane; and we protest that we are free of all: Therefore it must lye upon these unhappie men; they are the band of all the evils, and their source sends foorth all thir secrete suggestions and privat whisperings against Ruling Elders, is a chiefe cause of this.

The Commissioner said—But I heard these men sweare that, for procureing the peace of the Land, they were content to lay downe their offices and livings, and leave this Kingdome. I grant the offer is but small, for the Prince whom they serve can make it up another way.

The Moderatour said—I wische these men were more wise then to make themselves more odious to the land, by moving your Grace to leave this Assembly; for it is evidentlie seene by all, that they are the cause of your Grace rysing.

The Commissioner said—I grant the cause is be urging in of a declinatour and a protestation against lay Elders; but, truelie, they are free of this my declaration, now red in your hearing, which I desire to be insert in the bookes of the Assembly.

The Sheriff of Teviotdaile said—The paper your Grace craves to be insert, is full of grace and goodness, and the registration of that, proves the bookes to be an allowed Register, and the Assembly to be lawfull; and if your Grace hath protested against the auctoritie of these bookes, and lawfulnes of this Assembly, and will leave it as unlawfull, how disassenting are these?

The Commissioner replyed—Whenever I have assented, it shall stand good.

The Moderatour answered—Your Graces direction to registrat these papers in this, is ane acknowledgement that these bookes are good.

Mr David Dalgleishe said—I perceave, by your Graces speach and the Bishops paper, that they desyre to be cleared of these foule aspersions and imputations given in lybell against them. If, then, your Grace shall leave this Assembly, it is evident that they have the wyte of it, and have no will to be cleared, but would have all their challenges and imputations lye undiscussed.

The Commissioner answered—I am sure the Bishops desyres nothing more then to have a lawfull hearing before a judge free of partialitie; but no man will submitt himself to a judge whom he thinks his partie, as they think this Assembly to be.

Mr David Dalgleishe said—If I were in their case, and judged myselfe free of such imputations, I would submitt myselfe to the meanest subject of this kingdome, let be to such an honourable Assembly.

My Lord Lowdoun eikit—If they would declyne the judgment of ane nationall Assembly, I know not ane competent judgment seat for them but the King of Heaven; and, as for us, we sweare we have no personall prejudice at them: but in sua far as they have wranged the Church, the King, and Countrie, we desire they may be censured for it.

The Commissioner said—I stand to the Kings prerogative as Supreme Judge over all causes, civill and ecclesiasticall, to whom I think they may appeale, and not let the causes be reasoned heir.

My Lord Argyle desired the Assembly to heare him a little before his Grace should departe, and said—I was called to this Assembly by his Majestys command; but now, being come, I desyre to cleare myselfe, that my pairt hes bein fair in every thing that I know, neither as flatterer of the Kings Grace, nor for my own ends. I have not striven to blow the bellowes; but studied to keepe matters in als soft a temper as I could: and now I desyre to make it knowne to you, that I take you all for members of a lawfull Assembly, and honest countriemen. As this Assembly consists of members civill and ecclesiastic, I wishe that care may be had that this bodie may byde together, as ye all band yourselves by the late subscryved Confession of Faith; but I desyre that nothing be done in this Assembly to the wronging of that Confession subscryved by us of his Majesties Counsell, as if I had subscryved it with a mynd different from that which all had at the first making and subscryving of that Confession.

My Lord Lowdoun answered—Your Lordships protestation is very reasonable, seeing it is very scandalous that ane Confession should be subscryved be the Lords of his Majesties Counsell and Session, and ane uther be the bodie of the countrie, as if they were two different Confessions of Faith among the professours of ane religione in ane kingdome; therefore, it is earnestlie desyred of all, that the Confession of Faith be cleared, and a full explanation of all the heads and articles of it, that all may heartilie joyne in ane Religion, and duetifull obedience to our King, and that no slander goe abroad to uther nations.

The Commissioner said—What is done by warrand of auctoritie shall be cleared by the lawes of this Kirk and Kingdome, and wayes also shall be found to cleare his Majesties intention and will.

My Lord Lowdoun replyed—We are nothing diffident of that, neither is anything of that sort said by us to prescryve your Grace; but seeing two Confessions are subscryved of divers constructions, as humble supplicants we desyre that the Confession may be cleared, that all his Majesties subjects may be joyntlie tyed to God and the King.

The Commissioner said—I had warrand to give order for that and much more, but alace! I may not now stay.

My Lord Rothes said—It is pittifull that the Confession should not be cleared, seeing it is subscryved with three severall Constructions, and in Aberdein by some after a Popishe maner, admitting all the ordinances of the Kirk introduced or to be introduced, and this is the Papists implicite faith; by uther with that Construction only which it had when it was first subscryved anno 1580; and a third sort with a mere abjuration of all novations introduced since that tyme: therefore it is necessar that the Confession be cleared in the Assembly.

The Commissioner said—I cannot stay now.

My Lord Rothes said—Becaus your Graces departure was surmized this morning, therefore it was found necessar by this Assembly that a protestation should be made against your Grace. But we are most unwilling for to present it, and would rather intreat your Grace to propone your scruple and exceptions against this Assemblie, that they may be cleared. If your Grace will not, but will depairt, we must protest that your Grace hes depairted without a just reason.

The Commissioner said—I make a declaration that nothing done heir in this Assembly shall be of any force to bind any of his Majestys subjects; and I in his Majesties name discharge this Court to sit any longer.

[_The Commissioner leaves the Assembly._]

And while the Commissioner was in depairting, this protestation against his depairture was put in the Clerks hand and red, and Instruments tane of the protestation.

The Moderatour said—All that are heir knowes the reasons of the meiting of this Assembly; and albeit we have acknowledged the power of Christian Kings for conveining of Assemblies and their power in Assemblies, yet that may not derogat from Christs right; for he hath given divine warrants to convocat assemblies whether Magistrats consent or not: therefore, seeing we perceave men to be so zealous of their Masters commands, have we not also good reason to be zealous toward our Lord, and to mentaine the liberties and priviledges of His Kingdome? Ye all know that the work in hand hes had many difficulties, and God hes borne us through them all to this day; therefore, it becometh us not to be discouradged now by any thing that hes interveined, but rather to double our courage when we seeme to be deprived of humane auctoritie. He desyred some of the brethren should speake a word of encouragement and directioun to the Assembly, as God shall put in their heart for the tyme.

Mr David Dick said—Ye all understand that the great worke now in hand hes bein from small beginnings; for at the first, we intendit only to exoner ourselves, and to leave a testimonie to the posteritie that we bure witnesse to Christs oppresst cause. We thought the Cause desperat when we wer chargit to buy the Service Bookes under the paine of horning; yet we gave in supplications to the Counsell, desyring us to be heard against such indirect proceedings. When we knew not what to doe nixt, God hes led us on steppe by steppe, keeping us still within the compasse of his word and lawes of this Kingdome, for any thing that we ken; and we have only followed our caus with humble supplications to our King, and protestations against that which we could not obey; and it is evident that God hes accepted our testimonie—for his hands are about us still—for if he had not directed us, and his hand had not guyded us, we had beene long since confounded in our witts, and could have done nothing for the compassing of this great worke, more nor young children; neither could we have continowed in ane mynd till this day, if ane spirit had not told us. Seeing the Lord hes led us in a safe way to this day, he is now to crave a solemne testimonie of the Kirk of Scotland, and to ask of everie Man, who is his God? And we have clearlie presented unto us, a lesson of our fidelitie to our Lord from my Lord Commissioner. He hath stood punctuallie to the least point of his Commission. It becomes us to be als loyall to our God, seeing we are not restricted to particulars as he: Therefore, seeing this Court is granted to us of God, under our King, and with allowance of our King, and a parliament indicted to warrand all the Conclusions of it; and now he hes drawen back his granted warrand, shall we for this be disloyall to our God, and slyde from that which He hath granted? If we goe not, we shall prove tratours both to God and our King; or if we be silent, and passe from this Assembly, how shall the will of God be demonstrat to our King in pointes controverted? There is not a meane to informe our King fullie and clearlie, but the determinations of this Assemblie: Therefore we must now proceed, and so proceed as all our proceedings must answer for themselves, and, it may be seine, we have proceedit as good subjects to God and our King. We must either goe on, or take upon us all the imputations of scandalous and turbulent persones, and grant that there hes been als many wranges as there had been false imputations layd out against us; and this were to sin more deeplie, and to quyte these glorious priviledges which Christ hath granted to us, above all our Sister Churches, seeing there is not a meane to cleare ourselves to the Christian world but this. Let us goe on, putting over the matter upon our Lord and Master, and he shall answer for us at the Court of Heaven, and justifie us in the eyes of all that are wise.

Mr Hary Rollock was called next, who uttered a speech to the effect foresaid.

Mr Andrew Cant, and some uther of the brethren, spack likewise to the same purpose.

In the meane tyme came in

My Lord Erskine, before the Assemblie, and, with teares, did regrait his so long refusall to subscryve the Covenant, and was now most willing, with heart and hand, to subscryve it, if the Assemblie would be pleased to accept of him: the seeing and hearing whereof caused no small matter of joy to the whole Assembly; acknowledging, with admiration, the wonderfull Providence of God—that some had deserted and gone from them, so uthers were sent unto them. To encourage them there were also, at that tyme, four or five uthers, some whereof had been in uther countries, in tyme past, who all did enter in ane Covenant with joy to themselfes and the whole Assembly. After which, the voites of all the Assembly were craved by the Moderatour—Whether they would adhere unto their Protestation newlie red, or continow to the end of the Assembly now discharged?

All and everie ane of the Assemblie except six or seven, declaired solemnlie, that, with all their heart, they adhered unto their Protestation, and promised to continow till this Assembly, after the settling of all matters, be dissolved be commoun consent of the Members.

The Moderatour, having renewed the question againe, Whether they found themselves lawfull and competent Judges to the pretendit Bishops and Archbishops of this Kingdome, and the Complaints given in against them and their adherents, notwithstanding of their declinatour and protestation? The whole Assemblie, except four, declared this Assemblie to be most lawfull and competent Judges to the pretendit Bishops and Archbishops of this Kingdome.

The Moderatour having called upon the name of God, this Session dismissed.

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Sess. 8.—Novʳ 29, 1638.